From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jun 9 20:04:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA03979 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 9 Jun 1997 20:04:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cais.cais.com (root@cais.com [199.0.216.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA03973 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 1997 20:04:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from earth.mat.net (root@earth.mat.net [205.252.122.1]) by cais.cais.com (8.8.5/) with SMTP id XAA10157; Mon, 9 Jun 1997 23:04:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Journey2.mat.net (journey2.mat.net [205.252.122.116]) by earth.mat.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA18480; Mon, 9 Jun 1997 23:04:06 -0400 Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 23:03:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@Journey2.mat.net To: Michael Smith cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com, token@wicx50.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: REQ: help from Emacs/XEmacs/Jove/Jed/... users In-Reply-To: <199706100156.LAA03025@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 10 Jun 1997, Michael Smith wrote: > Chuck Robey stands accused of saying: > > > > Yeah, except the default command set just isn't as obvious to newbies. > > That's the reason pico is such a good editor for them, it just works, even > > for idiots. > > > > Yeah, I now remember the size thing, so because I don't feel like fighting > > that battle again, I will let it drop again, and FreeBSD can stay > > unfriendly for them. > > How about just writing a cut-down pico, perhaps you could call it > "femto" or something? We're all 100% in agreement that the command > set and screen layout is nice; all that's wrong is that the current > implementation is Too Big. Let me look at it, I'll see. > > > > > > Jordan > > -- > ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ > ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ > ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ > ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ > ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ > > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 3.0 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+-----------------------------------------------