From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 13 20:56:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D80E16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 20:56:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92.asp.att.net [63.240.76.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3E2743D2D for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 20:56:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92) with ESMTP id <20050213205601i92004ttv2e>; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 20:56:02 +0000 Message-ID: <420FBEDE.4000608@nbritton.org> Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 14:55:58 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050202) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Zumbrunn References: <20050213001621.59515.qmail@web53907.mail.yahoo.com><82d64b378160bb673c1d1611d1bedd56@czv.com> <420FA01B.6000807@nbritton.org> <02d9fb3bd6d983e230c3568cfaf8948f@czv.com> In-Reply-To: <02d9fb3bd6d983e230c3568cfaf8948f@czv.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The only worthwhile logo-related comments so far.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 20:56:05 -0000 Chris Zumbrunn wrote: > > On Feb 13, 2005, at 7:44 PM, Nikolas Britton wrote: > >> Chris Zumbrunn wrote: >> >>> While the Beastie mascot isn't exclusive to FreeBSD and instead is >>> used as a mascot for BSD unixes in general, a new FreeBSD Beastie >>> logo is subject to the additional copyright of its designer and can >>> as such be exclusive to the FreeBSD project. In combination with the >>> word FreeBSD and with the approval of the copyright holders, it >>> could indeed even be registered as a trademark. But FreeBSD is not a >>> company, and for its marketing purposes it doesn't require the >>> protection of a trademark. So, replacing Beastie as the FreeBSD logo >>> is NOT necessary. >> >> >> The FreeBSD Foundation was setup was for thing such as this, >> currently the 'FreeBSD' trademark is under the control of the >> foundation. Also I feel that the designer of this new logo should >> transfer copyright holder status to FreeBSD or the Foundation. > > > As far as I know that's a trademark for the word FreeBSD - not a logo > trademark. Even a company would usually only go through the trouble of > registering a logo trademark if it can't get protection for the word > because it is to generic. Beastie itself of course should continue to > belong to the entire BSD community. The FreeBSD foundation "only" owns > the word FreeBSD - but that's entirely sufficient. > > /czv > I think It can be both... when the symbols F, r, e, B, S, and D are combined together to form "FreeBSD" is what's trademarked and the medium is Irrelavant as long as you can see it.