From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 11 12:05:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FF7016A4CE for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 12:05:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from ness.plymouth.edu (ness.plymouth.edu [158.136.1.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 682FF43D31 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 12:05:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ted@ness.plymouth.edu) Received: from ness.plymouth.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ness.plymouth.edu (8.12.9p2/8.12.4) with ESMTP id i0BK5mCG004870; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 15:05:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from ted@localhost) by ness.plymouth.edu (8.12.9p2/8.12.9/Submit) id i0BK5mbY004869; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 15:05:48 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ted) From: Ted Wisniewski Message-Id: <200401112005.i0BK5mbY004869@ness.plymouth.edu> In-Reply-To: <20040111184032.GE3393@dan.emsphone.com> "from Dan Nelson at Jan 11, 2004 12:40:32 pm" To: Dan Nelson Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 15:05:48 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL88 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.2-RELEASE - Show stopper problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 20:05:56 -0000 (* In the last episode (Jan 11), Ted Wisniewski said: (* > Thanks for your response... As you can see in this output from the (* > ps command you suggested, the processes are dfinitely waiting on the (* > disk. BTW.. The syste in question was a fresh install from yesterday (* > with no users other than myself (I did the cvsup to get it to (* > 5.2-RELEASE). It did hang when I did that with a similar result. (* > One of the "install -s etc.." processes went into the same state. (* (* Are you seeing any errors in dmesg or /var/log/messages? I haven't (* seen any other reports of I/O hanging, so it might still be something (* to do with your hardware or kernel config. No messages at all in /var/log/messages. I am using the generic kernel in one instance and a custom one in another. For the machine I sent the "ps" info it is a Dell power edge 2650 running a generic kernel. The disk is configuration is a big raid 5 memory is 2G. Since I can duplicate (seemingly at will) on a number of different systems, I doubt it is specific to one machines hardware (3 dell servers of differeing models, 1 dell PC, and 3 noname brand PC's). (* > On my test system the machine will run for days with this happening, (* > however, I have another system that is actually doing a lot of (* > I/O.... eventually it crashes (well locks up completely)... If (* > there is any particular info you might need, I am willing to do what (* > I can. (* (* If you can drop into ddb when it's locked up, I think there are some (* commands you can run to print the kernel locks held by all the (* processes, but I'm not sure what they are or how to interpret the (* results. When it locks up... It is literally frozen... Only a power off will cure. I have occasionally seen a "page not present" panic.. Most of the time the processes just start to pile up accessing the same place(s) on disk. None being able to be killed, and always when I reboot the system after this there is a message about not being able to write buffers... giving up... Ted -- | Ted Wisniewski E-Mail: ted@mail.plymouth.edu | | Manager, Systems Group WEB: http://oz.plymouth.edu/~ted/ | | Information Technology Services | | Plymouth State University Phone: (603) 535-2661 | | Plymouth NH, 03264 Fax: (603) 535-2263 |