From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 24 4:25: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from genesis.setjmp.net (genesis.setjmp.net [208.13.245.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0712637BBA1 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 04:25:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eric@cfpower.com) Received: from torment (ra.cfpower.com [10.0.0.194]) by genesis.setjmp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA19165; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 07:26:01 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from eric@cfpower.com) Message-ID: <00e701bf7ec2$5460f9e0$c200000a@torment> From: "Eric A. Griff" To: Cc: References: <012501bf7991$bda83700$0e00a8c0@neland.dk> Subject: Re: "pop3 server has not responded in 60 seconds. Retry / abort?" Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 06:53:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Leif, I see this once in a while. Seems that once in a while, OE would think there was more coming to a specific message (completely downloaded), and wait. The POP server sits and waits for mailer activity. It's a standoff, and I've seen this on other mailservers as well, including NTMail, and Imail.. Often, the message holding things up, has an attachment. I usually wind up manually going into the pop, and deleting the message. I haven't seen this in OE 5. Occasionally it would happen with some Netscape Messenger versions too. With 5 tho, it will get it's messages mixed up a little, and download much mail before aborting (saving messages) though not deleting them on the server too, hehe. The fix is, close all OE/IE crap (reboot is the most likely way to guarentee this), then start OE, and "Compact all folders" from the "File" menu.. Then redo the closing... Apon restart, all should be well again.. This happens with Large mail folders. I get that with the folder I put the CFTalk (Cold Fusion Developers list). It's up to about 17,000 messages, hehe. Of course there, you may wind up with several copies of a message (scheduled autofetch), before you catch it, since it won't stop OE from trying again as setup in refresh... Leave it to Microsloth, ehe. Eric A. Griff setjmp Software 181 Genesee Street Suite 504 Utica, NY 13501 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leif Neland" To: Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2000 4:49 PM Subject: "pop3 server has not responded in 60 seconds. Retry / abort?" > Some users have problems receiving large emails. > A qpopper is running for that user, their outlook express is open, I can ping their machine, but no mail is flowing. > > I've also seen the same thing happening when they are sending. > > Just to understand the principle: TCP/IP is supposed to be reliable, right? If something happens, TCP/IP is supposed to do retransmits. > > If TCP/IP looses a package anyway, will the programs "on top" (application layer?) just wait, or will they too start retransmitting? > > It seems like if the traffic has stopped, no amount of waiting will cause traffic to start again. > > This happens on both analog PM2 and ISDN PM3. > The route to the portmasters goes via a cisco doing ospf. > The mailserver is (sorry) still li*ux, but this has happened also when I moved some customers to try using a Fbsd stable box. > > I wouldn't mind a solution, but I'm mostly asking this to enhance my knowledge of tcp/ip... > > Leif > > Of cause, > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message