From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Dec 21 11:36:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA10468 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 11:36:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from super-g.inch.com (super-g.com [207.240.140.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA10453 for ; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 11:36:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from spork@super-g.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by super-g.inch.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA19041; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 14:34:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 14:34:02 -0500 (EST) From: spork X-Sender: spork@super-g.inch.com To: George Wenzel cc: richard , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Usenet performance issues (was Re: RAID solutions?) In-Reply-To: <367A135D.471A@realtime.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We're currently using Dnews, and we're happy with it for the most part, our news machine was up and running for 344 days before I had to put more memory in... We are also considering moving to Typhoon, as it has support for external anti-spam progs, and it lets us specify which hierarchies go where, which would be a great help to us. The only problem is, it only runs on 3.0... Anyone have any experience with this product under FreeBSD? Dnews has been very stable, but I really like some of the additional features Typhoon has. Thanks, Charles --- Charles Sprickman spork@super-g.com On Fri, 18 Dec 1998, George Wenzel wrote: > richard wrote: > > > > > > I came across a ISP using DNEWS, whenever I access a group, my requests > > will be placed into a long queue waiting for a long long fetching the > > group ....... I didn't like it and left the ISP. > > > > Surely, as the administrator or owner of ISP , people love DNEWS, but > > as a user, you might have different view over the DNEWS. > > > Actually, there are a lot of ways to use Dnews. > > Dnews has lots of options I simply don't use. I am using Dnews in the > same way I was using INN. I do peer to peer NNTP, and users read live > hot news. > > Dnews has the option to use a "sucking" feed. A sucking feed emulates > a user while connecting to the upstream site. For someone with a > small number of users, this is MUCH more efficient than a full feed. > however if you provide feeds, or have enough users that sucking is > impractical, you simply don't use it. > > I tested the sucking feed against my INN server when I first evaluated > Dnews. I agree with the theory behind it, but I could tell within > a few minutes that I didn't want that. I have thousands of users > trained > to expect news on demand, and the sucking feed configuration would have > been unexciting to them. > > I'd write your experience off as an inexperienced ISP making a > management decision destined for unpopularity. Just because you > /can/ shoot yourself in the foot doesn't mean you should. > > I guess that is the universal caveat... Your milage is dependant on how > YOU drive more than what you drive. > > Few of the complaints I get about news have anything to do with the > server. In fact, I can't think of any complaints that were because > of the software. Perhaps complaints on how I configured expire or > something, but then not everyone understands that carrying a month > of binaries is impractical. My largest problems have been that the > whole thing seems clogged and poorly managed... Usenet that is... but > I wouldn't have it any other way ;) > > > George > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message