From owner-svn-src-all@freebsd.org Wed Feb 1 21:48:01 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8F88CCB79A; Wed, 1 Feb 2017 21:48:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from mail.baldwin.cx (bigwig.baldwin.cx [IPv6:2001:470:1f11:75::1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 95B6B7BB; Wed, 1 Feb 2017 21:48:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from ralph.baldwin.cx (c-73-231-226-104.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [73.231.226.104]) by mail.baldwin.cx (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 08D1B10A791; Wed, 1 Feb 2017 16:47:59 -0500 (EST) From: John Baldwin To: Mark Linimon Cc: Slawa Olhovchenkov , "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" , "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" , src-committers , Warner Losh , Takahashi Yoshihiro Subject: Re: svn commit: r312910 - in head: . etc/etc.pc98 etc/rc.d lib/libsysdecode libexec release release/doc release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/readme release/doc/share/example... Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2017 13:45:14 -0800 Message-ID: <1893823.eZvhe4dRmn@ralph.baldwin.cx> User-Agent: KMail/4.14.10 (FreeBSD/11.0-STABLE; KDE/4.14.10; amd64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <20170201213956.GA3765@lonesome.com> References: <201701280222.v0S2MFSR022477@repo.freebsd.org> <20170201170950.GF79121@zxy.spb.ru> <20170201213956.GA3765@lonesome.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (mail.baldwin.cx); Wed, 01 Feb 2017 16:47:59 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99.2 at mail.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2017 21:48:01 -0000 On Wednesday, February 01, 2017 03:39:57 PM Mark Linimon wrote: > On Wed, Feb 01, 2017 at 08:09:50PM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > > Also, I am think current ports don't build on 4.x. > > I will personally guarantee, in writing, that current ports do not build > on 4.x, nor have they done so for years. I personally removed the legacy > cruft when 4.11 finally went EOL. > > > I am got complains about using ports on 8.x. > > I am 99% certain that ports will not work on either 8.x or 9.x. Legacy > cruft was removed at the EOL in each of those cases. > > Anyone who think that we can support ports on 4.x, 5.x, 6.x, 7.x, 8.x, > 9.x, 10.x, 11.x, and -current, all at the same time, needs to seek medical > attention at once. At the absolute least, that era spans 3 major versions > of make(1) and two completely different package implementations. I think Slawa's point was that my suggestion that people with old hardware should run old releases means that they cannot use a modern ports checkout with those older systems. That point is correct, but you probably don't want to run newer, more bloated 3rd party software on such gear either. -- John Baldwin