From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Sep 25 12: 8: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B399D37B424 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 12:08:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA32190; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 15:07:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 15:07:44 -0400 From: Michael Lucas To: Joseph Scott Cc: Wes Peters , Bill Fumerola , cjclark@alum.mit.edu, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: wats so special about freeBSD? Message-ID: <20000925150744.A32170@blackhelicopters.org> References: <39CC3AEB.3D768A0E@softweyr.com> <20000925094129.A30394@blackhelicopters.org> <39CF9ECC.A31DAD97@owp.csus.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <39CF9ECC.A31DAD97@owp.csus.edu>; from joseph.scott@owp.csus.edu on Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 11:51:56AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 11:51:56AM -0700, Joseph Scott wrote: > > I have a lot more confidence in my firewalls than I do in my users > inside of them. Given that I worry because a firewall only addresses > certain issues. > Now *there* I'm lucky. If I can document that a user broke into an internal system (doable, given the number of 486s with serial connections doing nothing but logging), that user will bounce at least twice on his way out the door. :) Thursday night, I get to fire up Nessus on the internal network. This is going to be fun. You wanna see a manager turn green? Nessus generates nice pie graphs that anyone can understand, displaying exactly what all your security problems are and how they can be exploited. I'm expecting each NT box to be bright red. The obligatory -advocacy comment; the BSD boxes will, of course, be all green. ==ml -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message