From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Thu Sep 17 23:05:51 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 312309CF520; Thu, 17 Sep 2015 23:05:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Received: from mx0.gid.co.uk (mx0.gid.co.uk [194.32.164.250]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CACD21330; Thu, 17 Sep 2015 23:05:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Received: from [194.32.164.24] (80-46-130-69.static.dsl.as9105.com [80.46.130.69]) by mx0.gid.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id t8HN5eaN097503; Fri, 18 Sep 2015 00:05:40 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) Subject: Re: ECC support From: Bob Bishop In-Reply-To: <93106DFF-9741-4515-B6E0-AC43C0AF2179@gid.co.uk> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2015 00:05:35 +0100 Cc: Konstantin Belousov , Hackers freeBSD , Dieter BSD , Andriy Gapon , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <55F88A18.6090504@FreeBSD.org> <20150916035904.GE67105@kib.kiev.ua> <93871ADA-EDA3-481C-9959-1D371AB44479@gid.co.uk> <3678FC1E-DDC5-4FB2-B6E9-6FC90D0C988E@gid.co.uk> <93106DFF-9741-4515-B6E0-AC43C0AF2179@gid.co.uk> To: Igor Mozolevsky X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2015 23:05:51 -0000 Hi, > On 16 Sep 2015, at 13:04, Bob Bishop wrote: >=20 >=20 >> On 16 Sep 2015, at 12:52, Igor Mozolevsky = wrote: >>=20 >> [=E2=80=A6]The only thing I could think of is that the fab process = was(/is?) large >> enough to not worry about "nonsense" like cosmic rays &c (but then = I've not >> had much exposure to semi-conductor electronics theory since late = 90s). >> [=E2=80=A6] >=20 > Dunno. I=E2=80=99ll ask my tame semiconductor expert when I see him = tomorrow=E2=80=A6 The answer is quite interesting. A few process shrinks ago, alpha = particle effects were becoming worryingly intrusive and everybody was = concerned how much smaller features on ICs could actually be pushed. Then they did the next process shrink, and the effects disappeared = completely! A couple more shrinks later and they still haven=E2=80=99t = reappeared. Nobody understands why, but they don=E2=80=99t worry about = it any more. >> --=20 >> Igor M. >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 > -- > Bob Bishop > rb@gid.co.uk >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20