From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 30 09:17:13 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B902C16A418; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 09:17:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from redbull.bpaserver.net (redbullneu.bpaserver.net [213.198.78.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 335BF13C447; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 09:17:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from outgoing.leidinger.net (p54A54CE6.dip.t-dialin.net [84.165.76.230]) by redbull.bpaserver.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AB3A2E2C7; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 10:16:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail.leidinger.net (webmail.Leidinger.net [192.168.1.102]) by outgoing.leidinger.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F9AB77426; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 10:16:51 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=Leidinger.net; s=outgoing-alex; t=1196414211; bh=dPpv1drrN0VhFf/Q2YNfxBfvmsyK/mUYG cCXGJXVPe8=; h=Message-ID:X-Priority:Date:From:To:Cc:Subject: References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent; b=OOGqLb orvSpbGj+wbkkhbXGNWtlXX2IREf2tl68+06bfhQ5CJczZbYyWMYwr6E06hj4vK7KGs h0t1L2KVXNekrAsoIomDVtGYIpSQ2w7cY+4ehxzu9HaIkA0jSiTk9XcRi1QEWF0T2gZ X1L/sBJgIq1QUtwy9Jj04L21+uH/xV6ZemYq2jz/S4CXxq30KlPdJ/TPXt10TfnDNzx nhghppiOYyNj2WY6kQ3hh3X/QtrVyqW7f+gcprI35lHYmXdJXtzEB0rZhdF9XueKQO2 5SL7hSzX3kagCUuKjXvO2nXhVbXzWtdDHN+nxP5P4oO4wGEG2oLKE5GoNAYzljFJHR+ g== Received: (from www@localhost) by webmail.leidinger.net (8.14.1/8.13.8/Submit) id lAU9Gp8f067919; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 10:16:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Received: from pslux.cec.eu.int (pslux.cec.eu.int [158.169.9.14]) by webmail.leidinger.net (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 10:16:51 +0100 Message-ID: <20071130101651.4h9nvpztkwcg8o84@webmail.leidinger.net> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 10:16:51 +0100 From: Alexander Leidinger To: Remko Lodder References: <17978.194.74.82.3.1196407530.squirrel@galain.elvandar.org> In-Reply-To: <17978.194.74.82.3.1196407530.squirrel@galain.elvandar.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.4) / FreeBSD-7.0 X-BPAnet-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-BPAnet-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-BPAnet-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-15.4, required 6, autolearn=not spam, BAYES_00 -15.00, DKIM_SIGNED 0.00, DKIM_VERIFIED -0.00, RDNS_DYNAMIC 0.10, SMILEY -0.50) X-BPAnet-MailScanner-From: alexander@leidinger.net X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Removal of /etc/skel, your opinions please X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 09:17:13 -0000 Quoting Remko Lodder (from Fri, 30 Nov 2007 =20 08:25:30 +0100 (CET)): > > On Thu, November 29, 2007 10:47 am, Alexander Leidinger wrote: >> Quoting Remko Lodder (from Wed, 28 Nov 2007 >> 22:21:06 +0100): >> >>> >>> Dear arch@ members, >>> >>> I would like to remove /etc/skel from the BSD.root.dist mtree file >>> since it is no longer being used and I would like to remove unused >>> items. >> Not an objection, just something to think about: Do we want to >> deprecate the use of "adduser -k /etc/skel"? I know you said you just >> want to remove the directory, and every admin is allowed to create it >> again, but by removing the directory from the mtree file, we give a >> signal into the direction of deprecation. > You do have a point there actually :-), what we can do in the install > phase (initially "make distribution", later on when the system is already > installed, manage this through "mergemaster") is install all files from > /usr/share/skel to /etc/skel and actually use it. > > If we dont want to do that, why should we keep on carrying the directory > then? I have a local patch to adduser which adds /usr/local/share/skel (so 2 =20 directories are used by default). Now I think it may be better to =20 change this to use /etc/skel instead, and to do it in a way that =20 /etc/skel overrides /usr/share/skel. Looks more usable to me. What do =20 you think? Bye, Alexander. --=20 The most winning woman I ever knew was hanged for poisoning three little children for their insurance money. =09=09-- Sherlock Holmes http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net: PGP ID =3D B0063FE7 http://www.FreeBSD.org netchild @ FreeBSD.org : PGP ID =3D 72077137