From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 13 09:28:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1D8110656AD for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 09:28:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-117.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-117.bluehost.com [69.89.22.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6D9A98FC28 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 09:28:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 4887 invoked by uid 0); 13 Dec 2008 09:28:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by outboundproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 13 Dec 2008 09:28:37 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=GuxCpWMPMePj3Atlys/P65MLMIagiK+vznZ/Mbr6meI6kUg6FLAniliyrdXKdbyuHPsPs2MuAy2k6jl8WvGFxdtxyhNa536ENRxjIICM+Y/8hGYTFsjuQUs6SghfAdiZ; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LBQnd-0001E5-Jd for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 02:28:37 -0700 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 13 Dec 2008 02:28:12 -0700 Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 02:28:12 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081213092812.GF39031@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20081211134622.15c81ecd@gom.home> <20081212002813.GD32300@kokopelli.hydra> <20081211170011.777236f8@gom.home> <20081212015814.GB32982@kokopelli.hydra> <20081211215036.526b2cad@gom.home> <20081212181148.GD36348@kokopelli.hydra> <20081212110745.7657ff59@gom.home> <20081212211111.GD37185@kokopelli.hydra> <4942D5C0.9060307@gmail.com> <4942D70C.7030505@brianwhalen.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="rWhLK7VZz0iBluhq" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4942D70C.7030505@brianwhalen.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 09:28:37 -0000 --rWhLK7VZz0iBluhq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 01:26:36PM -0800, Brian Whalen wrote: > michael wrote: > >has anyone stopped at all during this discussion and considered what=20 > >you're arguing about? you're all complaining about a SERVER os that=20 > >doesn't have an nvidia driver for its 64bit implementation and Wojciech. > >I mean seriously, has this helped anything at all? is ranting on here=20 > >about those two things going to change 8.0 to be the next best gaming=20 > >console? no. if you want to use freebsd on your desktop with 3D you=20 > >can. just run i386. but this entire thread has gone down hill from the= =20 > >OP, and it is nonsense. you get a few more registers with 64bit and=20 > >some more ram, big deal. show me a gaming console that needs more than= =20 > >four gigs of ram. its not a priority and it shouldn't be. this is a=20 > >server class operating system that you CAN use on your desk if wanted.= =20 > >even linux in all its glory with an nvidia 64bit driver isn't all that= =20 > >great at gaming, i'm sorry its just not. its not that great with 3D=20 > >modeling either(in house and proprietary software like maya do not=20 > >count). >=20 > It is a great server OS. Perhaps some would like it to be a better=20 > desktop OS? PC BSD not good enough for some I suppose? You could=20 > always get a Mac and run the NIX underneath it when needed. I like FreeBSD more than PC-BSD as a desktop OS, personally. I don't like the "do it our way" mentality of these "user friendly" desktop oriented OSes. What I want more of is functionality -- not featuritis. So, no . . . PC-BSD isn't "good enough" for my purposes, because it's serving someone else's purposes entirely. --=20 Chad Perrin [ content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Henry Spencer: "Those who don't understand Unix are doomed to reinvent it, poorly." --rWhLK7VZz0iBluhq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAklDgCwACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKVLqgCgxwJpPGMho9QYGSOEwml11Ypn FMkAoLqssf27XWq5gOSXo8A6UHsizzUF =G5xh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --rWhLK7VZz0iBluhq--