From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Mar 16 07:02:44 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7413D25C355 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2020 07:02:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) Received: from admin.sibptus.ru (admin.sibptus.ru [IPv6:2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48gnLW30bkz4Pkv for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2020 07:02:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sibptus.ru; s=20181118; h=In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=qTUg5E0uBzhPSomnnp6XHVkx3I61YSMyMdyKk8ELPbM=; b=DR4tfUjkKpDCGDtlTKCZj/Gs35 lpERsQqXW9ocITm4cNbWraaURjLBOl2jVY9jDZ2xC8Du+9FpqS0VM1zs+V0JBZ1e2Idh0/1XxS9IJ 4b6QFB4XNQevijgLv9qqwbYmVdJXMw8vQvmcaWGhPtRs8w5FTioE+SdHXdeemJQ7qwUo=; Received: from vas by admin.sibptus.ru with local (Exim 4.93.0.4 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1jDjlj-000O0l-JB for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2020 14:02:35 +0700 Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2020 14:02:35 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Technological advantages over Linux Message-ID: <20200316070235.GC90309@admin.sibptus.ru> References: <20200214121620.GA80657@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200214141600.GA82559@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200214204838.360c8f624397c659946bd764@sohara.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="xesSdrSSBC0PokLI" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20200214204838.360c8f624397c659946bd764@sohara.org> X-PGP-Key: http://admin.sibptus.ru/~vas/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48gnLW30bkz4Pkv X-Spamd-Bar: -------- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=sibptus.ru header.s=20181118 header.b=DR4tfUjk; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=sibptus.ru; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of vas@sibptus.ru designates 2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=vas@sibptus.ru X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-8.44 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.991,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[sibptus.ru:s=20181118]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-3.35)[ip: (-9.89), ipnet: 2001:19f0:5000::/38(-4.94), asn: 20473(-1.88), country: US(-0.05)]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[sibptus.ru:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[sibptus.ru,none]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:5000::/38, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2020 07:02:44 -0000 --xesSdrSSBC0PokLI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 21:16:00 +0700 > Victor Sudakov wrote: >=20 > > For example, the absence of Docker (or analogous technology) for FreeBSD > > is a huge disadvantage. We need to name really superiour features to > > make up for this shortage. >=20 > pkg search docker shows a lot of packages including: >=20 > docker-18.09.5_1 Open-source application container engine > docker-compose-1.24.0_1 Define and run multi-container applications > with Docker >=20 > Looks like we have docker -=20 No, this is the wrong docker. It depends on VirtualBox and wants to run something in it, I guess some Linux. > but IMHO jails are better lightweight > containers with a *much* longer track record and there's bhyve for full > blown virtualisation. Both bhyve and jails are good as backend technologies but lack the features we value hypervisors and containers for: a community-supported collection of ready-made virtual appliances and guest images. --=20 Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ --xesSdrSSBC0PokLI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJebySLAAoJEA2k8lmbXsY0vhkIAIYEi9M3LMzZ4mxKY8IeeM+Y 6qsStc1tG0ChATk5i7eRnpC+Gdgwr1+c7bPPFqEYkDa2hLGKUBrSBt9dGf0gUAPN USFcuzjk2ndxXeCXAPxWiBzE8hpTlndAlZq/wnXjWxEppr5W/wFASoJWWhxpFimP yyJzmiorwL4+z02DwMPj3yheQCBI2QPPcjNl5mJxEaGBQFcTwTYwruMbvQGxQNq7 fVOheIevSkwXc65Xb8jMPv1E0ftYwE6Kx9oR8Pux43XJRKZuf9V4+4znsxYtyViL cuyyMl0ma8cgN6NMdROwUM+iFJ0zGqxjdl1FRrdJx21ggHKAKPYtQEKnv7No//o= =2YjD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --xesSdrSSBC0PokLI--