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[209.85.219.169]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m19-20020a819e13000000b00560c648ef1esm3316770ywj.72.2023.05.23.18.50.06 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 23 May 2023 18:50:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-yb1-f169.google.com with SMTP id 3f1490d57ef6-ba8afcc82c0so844189276.2 for ; Tue, 23 May 2023 18:50:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a0d:d9d3:0:b0:55a:ad0a:766 with SMTP id b202-20020a0dd9d3000000b0055aad0a0766mr17140270ywe.10.1684893006712; Tue, 23 May 2023 18:50:06 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-arch List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Tomek CEDRO Date: Wed, 24 May 2023 03:49:55 +0200 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: Future of 32-bit platforms (including i386) To: Warner Losh Cc: freebsd-arch Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.30 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cedro.info:s=google]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::b31:from,209.85.219.169:received]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-arch@freebsd.org]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cedro.info:+]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-arch@freebsd.org]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cedro.info]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4QQvJc6wfCz3FFb X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Sat, May 20, 2023 at 10:14=E2=80=AFPM Warner Losh wrote: > https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/developer/articles/technical/envi= sioning-future-simplified-architecture.html > > contains Intel's plans for the future. They have removed support for boot= ing > 16/32-bit and non-UEFI from their firmware as of 2020... I saw that info too.. but are we going to allow Intel dictate future of computers and supported platforms to The FreeBSD Project? I am convinced that everyone will move to RISC-V pretty soon anyway :-) --=20 CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info