From owner-freebsd-libh Thu Jan 31 9:12: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-libh@freebsd.org Received: from tomts9-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts9.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DA5837B417 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 09:11:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from khan.anarcat.dyndns.org ([65.94.186.7]) by tomts9-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20020131171156.GMQB23714.tomts9-srv.bellnexxia.net@khan.anarcat.dyndns.org>; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 12:11:56 -0500 Received: from shall.anarcat.dyndns.org (shall.anarcat.dyndns.org [192.168.0.1]) by khan.anarcat.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB3651942; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 12:11:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by shall.anarcat.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4AE2820ACC; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 12:12:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 12:12:01 -0500 From: The Anarcat To: Libh , Alexander Langer Subject: (fwd) tee versionning in npkg (Re: Adding support for a global src tree serial number) Message-ID: <20020131171200.GB295@shall.anarcat.dyndns.org> Mail-Followup-To: The Anarcat , Libh , Alexander Langer Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="XMCwj5IQnwKtuyBG" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i Sender: owner-freebsd-libh@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --XMCwj5IQnwKtuyBG Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="ftEhullJWpWg/VHq" Content-Disposition: inline --ftEhullJWpWg/VHq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline I forgot to CC this to libh, so here it goes. A. --ftEhullJWpWg/VHq Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Delivered-To: anarcat@anarcat.dyndns.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.119]) by khan.anarcat.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22DBF1942 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 12:10:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69ECA55ADC; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 09:08:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 538) id 21F2137B400; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 09:10:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 10A982E8003; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 09:10:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 31 Jan 2002 09:10:47 -0800 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from tomts14-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts14.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A2EE37B402 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 09:10:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from khan.anarcat.dyndns.org ([65.94.186.7]) by tomts14-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20020131171042.HGAM29652.tomts14-srv.bellnexxia.net@khan.anarcat.dyndns.org>; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 12:10:42 -0500 Received: from shall.anarcat.dyndns.org (shall.anarcat.dyndns.org [192.168.0.1]) by khan.anarcat.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D432189F; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 12:10:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by shall.anarcat.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 51B1D20ACC; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 12:10:36 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 12:10:36 -0500 From: The Anarcat To: "Jacques A. Vidrine" Cc: Sheldon Hearn , arch@FreeBSD.org Subject: tee versionning in npkg (Re: Adding support for a global src tree serial number) Message-ID: <20020131171036.GA295@shall.anarcat.dyndns.org> References: <79300.1012474898@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za> <20020131131714.GA87780@madman.nectar.cc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="KsGdsel6WgEHnImy" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020131131714.GA87780@madman.nectar.cc> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk --KsGdsel6WgEHnImy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu Jan 31, 2002 at 07:17:15AM -0600, Jacques A. Vidrine wrote: > On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 01:01:38PM +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > I'd like to propose the addition of a global src tree serial number that > > uniquely identifies an imaginary snapshot of the src tree. >=20 > This is attractive to me, since we already do something like this for > the `security' branches (RELENG_4_3 et al). We manually bump $BRANCH > in newvers.sh. I imagine it would also be attractive to people on > freebsd-binup. [with my libh developper hat on] I can't talk in the name of the binup project, since i'm not particularly involved in his developpment, but as for the next-generation package system and installation tools (libh), my idea of it is that it will be more modular than a single package with a single version number for the whole tree. The libh package system still needs some work, but when it is ready, I will start the packaging of /usr/src. I hope the tendency will not to package it as a single package, and I even hope to package it as finer-grained package than current "distributions" (bin, doc, contrib, etc). Something more like: fileutils, binutils, gnu-binutils, openssh, openssl, etc. These packages will all have independant package numbers. These will have to be maintained, somehow, and this is the main problem of the packaging of /usr/src: it is not made for that yet. No support is engineered in /usr/src to allow distribution and versionning of packages. Serial number is one thing, and it might be a good idea, but we could also consider more "classic" version numbers for sub-trees, as openssh-2001013109910000008 is not really a "user-friendly" package name. :) A. --KsGdsel6WgEHnImy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjxZeosACgkQttcWHAnWiGe5mQCfUPIWxhNyOT6kIe7EwuTjxLiw OmEAn22DFcSq6Q0bpAv0toVSwMWkOPrt =bhe2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --KsGdsel6WgEHnImy-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message --ftEhullJWpWg/VHq-- --XMCwj5IQnwKtuyBG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjxZeuAACgkQttcWHAnWiGda7wCfavwkPQY0EeJC+plwO6aLHAuA MCIAnj7gO1hR7c4pGc6UWy1ClUVMhWPe =efIG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --XMCwj5IQnwKtuyBG-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-libh" in the body of the message