From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jul 6 22:41:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA28552 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 22:41:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.camalott.com (root@mail.camalott.com [208.203.140.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA28529 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 22:41:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joelh@gnu.org) Received: from detlev.UUCP (tex-124.camalott.com [208.229.74.124]) by mail.camalott.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA12420; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 00:41:11 -0500 Received: (from joelh@localhost) by detlev.UUCP (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA10832; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 00:40:48 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from joelh) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 00:40:48 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199807070540.AAA10832@detlev.UUCP> To: jkh@time.cdrom.com CC: smoergrd@oslo.geco-prakla.slb.com, tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <27600.899788666@time.cdrom.com> (jkh@time.cdrom.com) Subject: Re: xf86OpenConsole: KDENABIO failed (Operation not permitted) From: Joel Ray Holveck References: <27600.899788666@time.cdrom.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >> While I will agree that it does not run in a normal manner, it is not >> an infrequent operation. > Erm, fine. So come up with an access method for X that doesn't > require this kind of security bypassing and I'm sure that everyone > will be quite pleased with you. :-) The implementation has been left as an exercise to the reader. Seriously, I didn't say it was something that should be fixed. In fact, I seem to recall saying that it's not worth fixing. I realize what is required to produce graphics on the PC, and that the security features of the architecture are laughable. I simply saw an email from somebody who was asking if this is a bug or a feature, and I gave my opinion. Now, will everybody please quit telling me why it exists, or why a fix is nontrivial? (If anybody thinks that not being able to run X when securelevel > 1 is the Right Thing, I would be happy to continue discussion.) Happy hacking, joelh -- Joel Ray Holveck - joelh@gnu.org - http://www.wp.com/piquan Fourth law of programming: Anything that can go wrong wi sendmail: segmentation violation - core dumped To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message