From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 10 04:51:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCCC616A4DE for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 04:51:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ipfreak@yahoo.com) Received: from web52110.mail.yahoo.com (web52110.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.48.113]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 62EE543D73 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 04:51:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ipfreak@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 70341 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Aug 2006 04:51:09 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=IuiP9AN8dc2qCpTDqr3VCnRgOJJcNXK8R5m2aQyCh9k9dbQnhVNNvauhuVDyWTmbi9FD4qKYPf3N62FVFpGAIZ/Z9HRuWy4+BnPIC0i5ebpHNlmMmJxTDOYjeGl4ZY7NnmI09dAcPFqu09gAFaow450K6zyuETvkUvK06VQ3yQE= ; Message-ID: <20060810045109.70339.qmail@web52110.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [72.73.19.173] by web52110.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 09 Aug 2006 21:51:09 PDT Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 21:51:09 -0700 (PDT) From: gahn To: Aaron Gibson In-Reply-To: <44DA2EE1.1090209@confabulator.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd general questions Subject: Re: Telecom X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 04:51:17 -0000 sorry...:) i should use "reply all". --- Aaron Gibson wrote: > gahn wrote: > > juniper just uses hardened freebsd kernel for its > os > > to run all of other processes such as routing, > snmp, > > monitoring the chansises.. etc. those individula > > processes/daemons are totally writen by juniper > gurus > > and has nothing to do with freebsd development. > that > > is why the routing engine uses intel cpu, which > has > > volume sale and easy to be upgraded. > > > > what makes juniper routers prefered choice for > telecom > > is its stablity. cisco line cards can boast the > > similar performance like juniper asic based packet > > processing/forwarding engine. in fact, every > vendor > > uses asic for their product (performance). but > cisco > > old ios just can't provide the stablity that of > junos. > > ios-xr might be since it is totally rewriten. > > > > just use freebsd for routing platefom wont give > you > > anything near the stablity that juniper routers > > provide; unles you are genius and writing your own > > routing software on the top of freebsd kernel. > > > > > > --- Aaron Gibson wrote: > > > >> root@rithy4u.net wrote: > >>> Dear All, > >>> > >>> Can we use FreeBSD in Telecom industry? If I > want > >> to build an Internet > >>> Backbone which connect across country in asia. > Is > >> it suitable? How is > >>> its stability of routing compare to Cisco? > >>> > >>> Rgds > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >>> > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >>> > >> juniper routers do exactly this (freebsd for > network > >> routing protocols, > >> asics for hardware forwarding). Not sure how they > >> compare to Ci$co (I'm > >> assuming cost is driving factor for evaluating > >> freebsd as a routing > >> platform). > >> > >> freebsd can do bgp/ospf/etc with software such > as: > >> quagga or zebra, or > >> the newer xorp. > >> > >> some people have used freebsd as a routing > platform > >> for large networks, > >> see occaid.org (their network was built with > >> freebsd/quagga and ip-ip > >> tunnels, although they did have some juniper m5s) > >> > >> what you will probably find is that routing in > >> software may not offer > >> the performance required for a backbone network. > >> This is of course > >> dependent on your needs, and some people (occaid) > >> have achieved > >> line-rate (small packets) ip forwarding with > intel > >> pro 1000 cards and > >> some patches to enable fastforwarding for ipv6 in > >> freebsd. > >> > >> hope this is of some help. I can't give any > numbers > >> with regard to > >> stability -- quagga/zebra did have some issues as > I > >> recall. > >> > >> for large amounts of traffic it may help to > enable > >> device driver polling > >> to reduce interrupt overhead. > >> > >> --Aaron > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > correct, I should have said that JunOS was based off > of FreeBSD (I may > have implied they used GENERIC FreeBSD). > > I attend UIUC.edu, and a student organization I'm > involved with has a > couple of FPGA development boards that might be > interesting to try and > do IP forwarding on. I guess as the cost of FPGAs > drop it might become > possible to compete with ASIC-based routers? I think > these FPGA boards > were ~$400. > > by the way, I screwed up replying to the original > thread so I replied > only to you (I fixed this). Your reply therefore > appears to be directed > to me only. Please send your reply to the mailing > list (also possible it > hasn't showed up yet). > > Thanks! > > --Aaron > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com