From owner-svn-src-all@freebsd.org Wed Feb 1 21:54:58 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64DE7CCC036; Wed, 1 Feb 2017 21:54:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slw@zxy.spb.ru) Received: from zxy.spb.ru (zxy.spb.ru [195.70.199.98]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 245261C0E; Wed, 1 Feb 2017 21:54:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slw@zxy.spb.ru) Received: from slw by zxy.spb.ru with local (Exim 4.86 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1cZ2rg-000Io5-1w; Thu, 02 Feb 2017 00:54:56 +0300 Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 00:54:56 +0300 From: Slawa Olhovchenkov To: John Baldwin Cc: Mark Linimon , "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" , "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" , src-committers , Warner Losh , Takahashi Yoshihiro Subject: Re: svn commit: r312910 - in head: . etc/etc.pc98 etc/rc.d lib/libsysdecode libexec release release/doc release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/readme release/doc/share/example... Message-ID: <20170201215455.GB37974@zxy.spb.ru> References: <201701280222.v0S2MFSR022477@repo.freebsd.org> <20170201170950.GF79121@zxy.spb.ru> <20170201213956.GA3765@lonesome.com> <1893823.eZvhe4dRmn@ralph.baldwin.cx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1893823.eZvhe4dRmn@ralph.baldwin.cx> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: slw@zxy.spb.ru X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on zxy.spb.ru); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2017 21:54:58 -0000 On Wed, Feb 01, 2017 at 01:45:14PM -0800, John Baldwin wrote: > On Wednesday, February 01, 2017 03:39:57 PM Mark Linimon wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 01, 2017 at 08:09:50PM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > > > Also, I am think current ports don't build on 4.x. > > > > I will personally guarantee, in writing, that current ports do not build > > on 4.x, nor have they done so for years. I personally removed the legacy > > cruft when 4.11 finally went EOL. > > > > > I am got complains about using ports on 8.x. > > > > I am 99% certain that ports will not work on either 8.x or 9.x. Legacy > > cruft was removed at the EOL in each of those cases. > > > > Anyone who think that we can support ports on 4.x, 5.x, 6.x, 7.x, 8.x, > > 9.x, 10.x, 11.x, and -current, all at the same time, needs to seek medical > > attention at once. At the absolute least, that era spans 3 major versions > > of make(1) and two completely different package implementations. > > I think Slawa's point was that my suggestion that people with old hardware > should run old releases means that they cannot use a modern ports checkout Yes. > with those older systems. That point is correct, but you probably don't > want to run newer, more bloated 3rd party software on such gear either. Not all software bloated, some software need to updated (for example, not sure about sshd in 4.x system. Or openssl).