From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 22 18:55:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B6081065693 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:55:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail2.fluidhosting.com (mx21.fluidhosting.com [204.14.89.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29DDF8FC16 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:55:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 15151 invoked by uid 399); 22 Sep 2009 18:55:46 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO foreign.dougb.net) (dougb@dougbarton.us@127.0.0.1) by localhost with ESMTPAM; 22 Sep 2009 18:55:46 -0000 X-Originating-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-Sender: dougb@dougbarton.us Message-ID: <4AB91DAA.5010000@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 11:55:38 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090822) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gonzalo Nemmi References: <20090921112657.GW95398@hoeg.nl> <20090922135435.36a3d40e@lazybytes.org> <4AB90448.9020706@FreeBSD.org> <19e9a5dc0909221014o14e88c96ubf32142b85d781d@mail.gmail.com> <20090922173517.GB63149@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <19e9a5dc0909221053r4ada92bege718e37aa575e0de@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <19e9a5dc0909221053r4ada92bege718e37aa575e0de@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 OpenPGP: id=D5B2F0FB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: arch@freebsd.org, Sergey Vinogradov , current@freebsd.org, Steve Kargl Subject: Re: BIND in the base (Was: Re: tmux(1) in base) X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:55:53 -0000 Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: > With all due respect, I already know that .. it's pretty clear in the > different manuals, hanbooks and how-ro's ... and that's exactly why I > never asked how can I remove sendmail and replace it with dma .. the > question was more inclined in the way: why such a heavywheight (which > is what a lot of users seem to be saying, and I agree with them) when > we could do just as well with dma So do it already. :) A lot of people have talked about this, but no one has put code where their mouth is. Create a POC and post it to -arch, then we have something concrete to discuss. And please, don't bother with the "But I don't want to do the work if it isn't going to be accepted into the base" argument. There are way more than enough people whinging about this topic that your work will have an appreciative audience, which is all the reward we get around here. > (let alone the fact that we could > then cooperate with DragonFly, creating synergy, advancing toghether > towards the same goal amongst a plenty of other advantages). While those are nice words I don't think they have any meaning in the real world. We're dealing with a technical issue, we need to keep the discussion on technical terms. -- This .signature sanitized for your protection