From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 20 0:55:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n0b.san.rr.com (dt051n0b.san.rr.com [204.210.32.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D78137B639; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 00:55:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (doug@master [10.0.0.2]) by dt051n0b.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA50671; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 00:55:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Message-ID: <38D5E77D.8F903DFE@gorean.org> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 00:55:25 -0800 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT-0316 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Cameron Grant Cc: Randall Hopper , Amancio Hasty , Conrad Sabatier , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Suggestions for improving newpcm performance? References: <200003191838.KAA40955@rah.star-gate.com> <000701bf91d5$4aebeb60$0304020a@NENYA> <001a01bf91c1$7f62a4b0$0304020a@NENYA> <200003191838.KAA40955@rah.star-gate.com> <20000319220453.A65973@ipass.net> <005d01bf9221$4660ac60$0304020a@NENYA> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [snipping] Cameron Grant wrote: > to my knowledge, midi is the only functionality missing. also, multiple > opens of /dev/dsp are not yet implemented. both will be soon. I think someone else already responded to this point. You can check the archives for more discussion. > i, and others, will want to > see code, not promises. Which, I think, is exactly what the current voxware users are saying. The promises about the additions/improvements to (new)pcm have been going on for a year or more. This is the second round of removing the voxware drivers before the new stuff is ready. I would think that the PTB would have learned from the last round of hue'ing and cry'ing that the transition would have been much easier if the new functionality had been added first. Far be it from me to stand in the way of progress, but it would be nice to _see_ some progress first. Don't get me wrong, I know the new stuff is going to be cool, I know that that people working on it are working hard, and I appreciate their efforts. But it seems that some involved in the project are hell bent on getting rid of voxware, for better or worse. It would be nice if there were more of a spirit of cooperation. (Yes, I know all the arguments for removing the "stale" code, but I don't buy them, not yet. See archives for more.) Doug PS, can we stop naming things "_new_foo"? There are two problems with that. First, in 6 months it won't be new anymore. Second, what do you call the next step in evolution? newnewpcm? :) -- "While the future's there for anyone to change, still you know it seems, it would be easier sometimes to change the past" - Jackson Browne, "Fountain of Sorrow" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message