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Date:      Mon, 08 Aug 2011 16:06:25 +0900 (JST)
From:      Hiroki Sato <hrs@FreeBSD.org>
To:        yanegomi@gmail.com
Cc:        svn-src-head@FreeBSD.org, simon@nitro.dk, svn-src-all@FreeBSD.org, dougb@FreeBSD.org, src-committers@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r224674 - head/etc
Message-ID:  <20110808.160625.465966131558285623.hrs@allbsd.org>
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Garrett Cooper <yanegomi@gmail.com> wrote
  in <CAGH67wQ6vcgvRn2F_VaLmSausUdaaasCmvboJVx4OXaAG_gyvg@mail.gmail.co=
m>:

ya> On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 9:12 PM, Doug Barton <dougb@freebsd.org> wro=
te:
ya> > On 8/7/2011 6:05 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote:
ya> >> On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Simon L. B. Nielsen <simon@nitro=
.dk> wrote:
ya> >>>
ya> >>> On 6 Aug 2011, at 11:16, Doug Barton wrote:
ya> >>>
ya> >>>> Author: dougb
ya> >>>> Date: Sat Aug =A06 09:16:53 2011
ya> >>>> New Revision: 224674
ya> >>>> URL: http://svn.freebsd.org/changeset/base/224674
ya> >>>>
ya> >>>> Log:
ya> >>>> =A0Rather than edit the nsswitch.conf file based on ${MK_NIS} =
=3D=3D "no"
ya> >>>> =A0comment out the NIS _compat options by default, but leave t=
hem in
ya> >>>> =A0the file for the convenience of users who want to enable it=
.=

ya> >>>>
ya> >>>> =A0Update the comment in the file accordingly.
ya> >>>
ya> >>> This disables NIS by default which is rather surprising conside=
ring there has been no prior (which I have been able to find) discussio=
n of this.
ya> >>>
ya> >>> At the _VERY_ least people need to be warned about this loudly.=
 Unless you can show this really helps non-NIS users this is IMO a bad =
idea.
ya> >>>
ya> >>> Yes, if you hand merge all /etc files this won't be a problem..=
. but I don't since life's to short for that, so this change just broke=
 login on one of the FreeBSD.org during an upgrade.
ya> >
ya> > mergemaster has been in the tree for almost 12 years now. :) =A0I=
n any
ya> > case, I can't think of a situation where blindly copying new file=
s to
ya> > /etc is a good idea (with all due respect).
ya> >
ya> >> non-POLA changes are bad, and this _definitely_ deserves an UPDA=
TING
ya> >> entry and/or further discussion.
ya> >
ya> > I'm happy to ask for permission to do the UPDATING entry, do you =
have
ya> > suggestions for the text?
ya> =

ya> Maybe this?
ya> -Garrett

 Could you all please discuss this topic on -current?  I was not fully
 aware of the impact and possible controversy when I approved this
 change (sorry), but simon@'s comment implies an objection against the
 change as well as a suggestion to discuss it for a consensus.  I
 think it is better to discuss this on a (more) public mailing list
 before taking further actions.

-- Hiroki

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