Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2025 11:24:17 +0100 From: Alice Sowerby <alice@freebsdfoundation.org> To: "Steven Harms (High-Security Mail)" <sgharms@stevengharms.com> Cc: "freebsd-desktop@freebsd.org" <freebsd-desktop@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: [LDWG] Issues for "proj-laptop" Message-ID: <CAE=KKV9wBXMw7RVNhxMWbRx7VBHzKRLtYO1pPJj4n9GuEciUdw@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <g-Od5r6ghITPoqOnPT2KrMjYpXoYAZEIAWF8o_aHZL-Gk9DK0YxlMo9qqbVGgT76PeZe71KY_gGDaTBxVKdAzb3pdYwwt4C4uNL0DKMndXU=@stevengharms.com> References: <g-Od5r6ghITPoqOnPT2KrMjYpXoYAZEIAWF8o_aHZL-Gk9DK0YxlMo9qqbVGgT76PeZe71KY_gGDaTBxVKdAzb3pdYwwt4C4uNL0DKMndXU=@stevengharms.com>
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--0000000000003eefdf062cad7bb4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Steven, Thanks for doing this, super helpful! I do believe that this kind of testing is really valuable. My understanding is that though there is a process for logging bugs in FreeBSD, there isn't a clear place to lodge usability issues, or this sort of end-to-end testing. But I'm new to FreeBSD and if there is something I would love to be pointed in the right direction. The Foundation's Laptop project is a subset of the overall community's work related to laptops, and the work we are doing is visible in the repo you mentioned. At the moment we are aiming for this repo to be a place for making the work visible, and for it to be read-only (not a place to report bugs or file test reports). However, the Foundation is aware that there is a need for a more UX-focused testing effort for this project (and maybe for FreeBSD in general?). It's something we need to solve for sooner rather than later. We've put out a call for any volunteers in the community who can help with this, both as testers and also helping to set up and manage a community-based testing group. So far we've seen a bit of interest in testing, less so for helping manage the effort. I intend to discuss this with Ed Maste tomorrow, so I may have a suggestion after that. In the meantime, if anyone would like to help, we would welcome it with open arms! Thanks, Alice. On Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 7:54=E2=80=AFAM Steven Harms (High-Security Mail) < sgharms@stevengharms.com> wrote: > I recently did an install of FreeBSD and kept copious notes of where > things were confusing scary, or where I hit non-support, etc. In short, > what does installing and the first steps of FreeBSD feel like. I have som= e > ideas for projects. (1) What's the best way to document my experience? > Additionally, (2) is it appropriate to add issues directly to > https://github.com/FreeBSDFoundation/proj-laptop/issues? Most of them > seem to be created by one person who seems to be the project lead (Alice > S.) and I wasn't sure if it was appropriate for the unwashed to drop item= s > in there. > > --- > > Public Key: 22BE39E2FA68D8BA8DC4B43A55A16D8CE2B036DE > > Messages from this account are considered the best-secured and most > reliable. Send information regarding health, wealth, or requiring higher > standards of security to this address. > > Sent with Proton Mail <https://proton.me/mail/home>; secure email. > --0000000000003eefdf062cad7bb4 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Steven,=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>Thanks for doing this,= super helpful! I do believe that this kind of testing is really valuable. = My understanding is that though there is a process for logging bugs in Free= BSD, there isn't a clear place to lodge usability issues, or this sort = of end-to-end testing. But I'm new to FreeBSD and if there is something= I would love to be pointed in the right direction.=C2=A0</div><div><br></d= iv><div>The Foundation's Laptop project is a subset of the overall comm= unity's work related to laptops, and the work we are doing is visible i= n the repo you mentioned. At the moment=C2=A0we are aiming for this repo to= be a place for making the work visible, and for it to be read-only (not a = place to report bugs or file test reports).=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>= However, the Foundation is aware that there is a need for a more UX-focused= testing effort for this project (and maybe for FreeBSD in general?). It= 9;s something we need to solve for sooner rather than later. We've put = out a call for any volunteers in the community who can help with=C2=A0this,= both as testers and also helping to set up and manage a community-based te= sting group. So far we've seen a bit of interest in testing, less so fo= r helping manage the effort.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>I intend to dis= cuss this with Ed Maste tomorrow, so I may have a suggestion after that. In= the meantime, if anyone would like to help, we would welcome it with open = arms!</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div><br></div><div>Alice.</div= ></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr= " class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 7:54=E2=80=AFAM Steven Harms= (High-Security Mail) <<a href=3D"mailto:sgharms@stevengharms.com">sghar= ms@stevengharms.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot= e" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204)= ;padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14p= x">I recently did an install of FreeBSD and kept copious notes of where thi= ngs were confusing scary, or where I hit non-support, etc. In short, what d= oes installing and the first steps of FreeBSD feel like. I have some ideas = for projects. (1) What's the best way to document my experience? Additi= onally, (2) is it appropriate to add issues directly to <span><a rel=3D"nor= eferrer nofollow noopener" href=3D"https://github.com/FreeBSDFoundation/pro= j-laptop/issues" target=3D"_blank">https://github.com/FreeBSDFoundation/pro= j-laptop/issues</a></span>? Most of them seem to be created by one person w= ho seems to be the project lead (Alice S.) and I wasn't sure if it was = appropriate for the unwashed to drop items in there.<br></div><div style=3D= "font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px"><br></div> <div style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px"> <div> <div>---<br></div><div><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:Arial,sa= ns-serif;font-size:14px;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"= >Public Key: <a title=3D"22BE39E2FA68D8BA8DC4B43A55A16D8CE2B036DE" href=3D"= https://22BE39E2FA68D8BA8DC4B43A55A16D8CE2B036DE" target=3D"_blank"><span>2= 2BE39E2FA68D8BA8DC4B43A55A16D8CE2B036DE</span></a><br></div><div style=3D"f= ont-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;t= ext-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none= ;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><br></div><div= >Messages from this account are considered the best-secured and most reliab= le. Send information regarding health, wealth, or requiring higher standard= s of security to this address.<br></div> </div> <div style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px"><br></div> <div> Sent with <a href=3D"https://proton.me/mail/home" target=3D"_blank"= >Proton Mail</a> secure email. </div> </div> </blockquote></div> --0000000000003eefdf062cad7bb4--
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