From owner-freebsd-arch Thu Jan 30 9:51:33 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EB0537B401 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 09:51:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from HAL9000.homeunix.com (12-233-57-224.client.attbi.com [12.233.57.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE7D343F3F for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 09:51:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dschultz@uclink.berkeley.edu) Received: from HAL9000.homeunix.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by HAL9000.homeunix.com (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h0UHpSNt009925; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 09:51:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dschultz@uclink.berkeley.edu) Received: (from das@localhost) by HAL9000.homeunix.com (8.12.6/8.12.5/Submit) id h0UHpSJ5009924; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 09:51:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dschultz@uclink.berkeley.edu) Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 09:51:28 -0800 From: David Schultz To: Terry Lambert Cc: "Andrew R. Reiter" , Scott Long , arch@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PAE (was Re: bus_dmamem_alloc_size()) Message-ID: <20030130175128.GA9891@HAL9000.homeunix.com> Mail-Followup-To: Terry Lambert , "Andrew R. Reiter" , Scott Long , arch@FreeBSD.ORG References: <3E385A1E.629EB694@mindspring.com> <20030130064800.GB7258@HAL9000.homeunix.com> <3E3922DA.55D9CDE9@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3E3922DA.55D9CDE9@mindspring.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thus spake Terry Lambert : > David Schultz wrote: > > Thus spake Terry Lambert : > > > "Andrew R. Reiter" wrote: > > > > Anyone know the status of PAE in fBSD? I heard rumors awhile back that > > > > people had patches, or Y! had patches... but has anyone actually coughed > > > > them up? > > > > > > Contact Paul Saab. > > > > A year ago, the rumor was that DG was eventually going to do it. > > Six months ago it was Peter Wemm. And now Paul Saab?! Sheesh. > > Why don't we just wait another few years so 64-bit machines solve > > all our problems and we don't have to hack up the VM system? ;-) > > PSE36 is more intelligent than PAE, but neither one are very smart; > they were put there by hardware people who thought that what software > people wanted was more processes in RAM, not more RAM in individual > processes. As such, they are a generally bad idea. Most people > asking the question seem to have bought into the hardware people's > picture of the universe, without understanding that. 8-(. More specifically, they are the same people who brought us bank switching at least twice in the past, and lo and behold it still isn't a very good idea. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message