From owner-freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org Tue Apr 19 10:27:56 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-pkgbase@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8860BB1486D; Tue, 19 Apr 2016 10:27:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@e-new.0x20.net) Received: from mail.0x20.net (mail.0x20.net [217.69.76.211]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.0x20.net", Issuer "mail.0x20.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9FB531B27; Tue, 19 Apr 2016 10:27:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@e-new.0x20.net) Received: from e-new.0x20.net (mail.0x20.net [IPv6:2001:aa8:fffb:1::3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.0x20.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EE0BF6E0081; Tue, 19 Apr 2016 12:27:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from e-new.0x20.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by e-new.0x20.net (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id u3JARquB077740; Tue, 19 Apr 2016 12:27:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from lars@e-new.0x20.net) Received: (from lars@localhost) by e-new.0x20.net (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id u3JARpna077438; Tue, 19 Apr 2016 12:27:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from lars) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2016 12:27:51 +0200 From: Lars Engels To: dan_partelly Cc: Julian Elischer , Alfred Perlstein , lev@FreeBSD.org, Glen Barber , Nathan Whitehorn , Sean Fagan , freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [CFT] packaging the base system with pkg(8) Message-ID: <20160419102751.GM82927@e-new.0x20.net> Mail-Followup-To: Lars Engels , dan_partelly , Julian Elischer , Alfred Perlstein , lev@FreeBSD.org, Glen Barber , Nathan Whitehorn , Sean Fagan , freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <20160302235429.GD75641@FreeBSD.org> <57152CE5.5050500@FreeBSD.org> <9D4B9C8B-41D7-42BC-B436-D23EFFF60261@ixsystems.com> <20160418191425.GW1554@FreeBSD.org> <571533B8.6090109@freebsd.org> <20160418194010.GX1554@FreeBSD.org> <57153E80.4080800@FreeBSD.org> <571551AB.4070203@freebsd.org> <5715E1E9.8060507@freebsd.org> <4787f50d3f160e606ad55737e93a324a@rdsor.ro> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="mkHYMT4O8DyWoHkb" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4787f50d3f160e606ad55737e93a324a@rdsor.ro> X-Editor: VIM - Vi IMproved 7.4 X-Operation-System: FreeBSD 8.4-RELEASE-p23 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Packaging the FreeBSD base system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2016 10:27:56 -0000 --mkHYMT4O8DyWoHkb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 12:18:00PM +0300, dan_partelly wrote: >=20 > be as terse as possible. You guys seen the "Add remove programs" > in Windows control panel ? Thats sane. Even now the default output =20 > of pkg borders insane, when you have many packages installed. 99% of my > time > I dont really care about lib-rtyum546.78.9. I care only less than 1% of my > time when something=20 > goes wrong.=20 Don't use "pkg info" then. Use "pkg leaf": % pkg info | wc -l 249 % pkg leaf | wc -l 25 "leaf" is an alias for: pkg 'query -e "%a =3D=3D 0" "%n-%v"' And to everyone complaining about the number of packages: How many of you have actually used the packaged base? --mkHYMT4O8DyWoHkb Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQF8BAEBCgBmBQJXFggnXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ4RjQwMDE3RTRERjUzMTI1N0FGRTUxNDlF NTRDQjM3RDNBMDg5RDZEAAoJEOVMs306CJ1tbAYH/i0yagmypWg+RUKQsTGWg+An hWyFArEGrnLZA71qacmu9hceJL+jMMDIuYTDG5VoMtVctU9xM8EhyuHQ8x7diqCo MS/mfkuPRG319g7/5qkAdmPQYA1DyhRdfpZA4tzWHd9hvu/AvtrJ2HSe6DQbO3g2 aP97b8rfIwT42D7dmBelPXMK+Jt8WhGN+S8EiqQJrsNsvooh0a8LudWTS4+Z/lpO FwE1JTqcOI/VIg1OrhwxDsffX5p8m1Yz5L/i7+ValO8dO/xlxAaR9qhgtqtczwTv hCCjeZYwW8H8bmgHoI6B6HcHmsPg12HvUzKsbcpaDAop58PPrp0CXbyYLFyxRxk= =EMnC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --mkHYMT4O8DyWoHkb--