From owner-svn-src-head@freebsd.org Wed Jun 6 19:02:26 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E6F0FDEF02; Wed, 6 Jun 2018 19:02:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brd@FreeBSD.org) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 41C7682824; Wed, 6 Jun 2018 19:02:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brd@FreeBSD.org) Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.internal [10.202.2.45]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id C447621D34; Wed, 6 Jun 2018 15:02:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web4 ([10.202.2.214]) by compute5.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 06 Jun 2018 15:02:25 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; bh=twrDNn oCEqVzV7fPv+bAyXYTJvlbfvZTKO+318Xfiik=; b=M+/WAjXa+O5BUyPCuzlO26 rnwtJef+4fZUP8nDxiR195zFG2DC6ITO7qcmtfYbkLmdAngDdQB7gYIfhGBkkTbv nkF+48WIfosBRLurfxOiUEK8/mBr95ttz/TVQa5OrJFm+pGH73AAgTeFsmwWpkdB z0lqhGE3MPJVinya13EtfDbUu/ufdr7Huib2p5j4tA7S99HE8keajenDbJDn25dH vv2nQToXVb/9+AD7vZUgUr4VS/yi+/mTraZe4yKYaBncVOGlIEQ9I8/xa1HIB7mK LY4DBvYWYsihwAngv4tHLgKGGq/IECGcRcdaAqdEy/RHvTaDmhyHLv8khVhCp1tA == X-ME-Proxy: X-ME-Proxy: X-ME-Proxy: X-ME-Proxy: X-ME-Proxy: X-ME-Proxy: X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id 68D1CBA50D; Wed, 6 Jun 2018 15:02:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1528311745.474139.1398838488.1527C06D@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: Brad Davis To: rgrimes@FreeBSD.org Cc: Konstantin Belousov , Eugene Grosbein , Alexander Leidinger , Kyle Evans , "src-committers" , svn-src-all@FreeBSD.org, svn-src-head@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-fb4a77ea Subject: Re: svn commit: r334617 - in head: . etc Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2018 13:02:25 -0600 References: <201806061833.w56IXWBC006288@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> In-Reply-To: <201806061833.w56IXWBC006288@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2018 19:02:27 -0000 On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, at 12:33 PM, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jun 5, 2018, at 1:28 PM, Konstantin Belousov wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 06, 2018 at 01:39:00AM +0700, Eugene Grosbein wrote: > > > > 06.06.2018 1:26, Konstantin Belousov wrote: > > > > > > > > >>> I find it often very useful to do > > > > >>> (cd src/etc/rc.d && make install) > > > > >>> Same for defaults and several other directories which in fact > > > > >>> contains> > >>> non-editable content. Is this planned to keep working ? > > > > >> > > > > >> The short answer is, no. All rc.d scripts get moved to the src > > > > >> of the program they start.> > >> > > > > >> That said, if there is a big need for this, we can see about > > > > >> options to keep them working.> > >> > > > > >> What are you trying to accomplish when you do this? Just verify > > > > >> the rc.d scripts match your src tree?> > > > > > > > I avoid mergemaster/etcupdate and whatever else. rc.d and /etc/rc,> > > /etc/rc.subr /etc/rc.network are not suitable to etc, they are > > > > > binaries> > > provided by the project not for the user editing. > > > > > > > > > > When upgrading the host, esp. on HEAD, i usually refresh scripts > > > > > by this> > > procedure and avoid any editing and implied conflict resolution > > > > > for real> > > configs. > > > > > > > > > > Not being able to easily install clean copies of these scripts > > > > > would> > > be very inconvenient and time consuming. > > > > > > > > I found that "mergemaster -iFUP" deals with unchanged files > > > > including mentioned rc* scripts just fine.> > That is, it automatically refreshes unchanged files without any > > > > silly questions just for change of $FreeBSD$.> > > > No, you missed the point. Whatever nice is the handling of > > > unchanged files,> use of mergemaster forces me to handle changed files, which is exactly> what I do not want/need to do. Yes, I update crashboxes very > > > often, and> I want to get all new code, including the startup scripts, when > > > I update. > > The startup scripts will be installed as part of installworld. > > So each installworld would wipe over the top of any localmod /etc/rc.d/ > and other stuff > that mght exist? > One of the reasons that etc/Makefile is detached from Installword is so > that > /etc does not get perturbuted unless specifically requested. Yes, this is by design. If people need custom tweaks for that stuff they should be upstreamed or moved into /usr/local/etc/rc.d as a custom startup script. Regards, Brad Davis