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Date:      Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:44:55 -0700
From:      Doug Barton <dougb@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Sam Leffler <sam@errno.com>
Cc:        freebsd-rc@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: boot ordering and syslogd
Message-ID:  <47E820D7.1060804@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <47E81DD1.8050205@errno.com>
References:  <47E809EE.4080809@errno.com> <47E81D12.5090201@FreeBSD.org> <47E81DD1.8050205@errno.com>

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Sam Leffler wrote:
> Doug Barton wrote:
>> Sam Leffler wrote:
>>> I tried to use syslog to debug an issue with dhclient and noticed 
>>> that syslogd is started too late for it to work.  This is because 
>>> dhclient operates in a chroot jail so must setup it's connection to 
>>> syslogd before privsep work is done.  This seems like a general 
>>> problem and one that should be fixed.
>>>
>>> Anyone got an idea how to correct this?
>>
>> It's a chicken-and-egg issue because if you need the network to do 
>> remote syslog'ing (or syslog'ing to an NFS partition, etc.), you need 
>> the network up first.
>>
>> What I've done in similar situations is to modify a copy of 
>> dhclient-script to spit out data to a text file. If you need something 
>> more robust you could always change the ordering locally. If you need 
>> help with that just let us know.
> 
> Er, this is a problem that needs to be fixed; not hacked around w/ local 
> mods.  We are losing logging that makes diagnosing problems hard.

There is a purpose for the order as it exists, so I would argue that 
it is not a problem that needs to be fixed. However I'll let others 
respond now.

Doug

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