From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Thu Oct 10 08:39:44 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2180B14E831 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 08:39:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from kib.kiev.ua (kib.kiev.ua [IPv6:2001:470:d5e7:1::1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46pkzM6JFRz4nw2; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 08:39:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from tom.home (kib@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kib.kiev.ua (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id x9A8dVTS011285 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 10 Oct 2019 11:39:34 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 kib.kiev.ua x9A8dVTS011285 Received: (from kostik@localhost) by tom.home (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id x9A8dVCX011284; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 11:39:31 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: tom.home: kostik set sender to kostikbel@gmail.com using -f Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2019 11:39:31 +0300 From: Konstantin Belousov To: Jeremie Le Hen Cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, Edward Napierala Subject: Re: Removal of rmt(8)? rcmd(3)? Message-ID: <20191010083931.GL44691@kib.kiev.ua> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.12.2 (2019-09-21) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD,FREEMAIL_FROM, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on tom.home X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46pkzM6JFRz4nw2 X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.997,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2019 08:39:44 -0000 On Wed, Oct 09, 2019 at 10:30:30PM +0200, Jeremie Le Hen wrote: > Hi, > > In August 2017 I removed FreeBSD rcmd tools (rsh, ruptime, etc). > > trasz@ (cc'ed) reached out to me asking if we should remove rmt(8). It > relies on rcmd(3) which, as I understand it, is a libc function which > implements protocol used by rshd(8). This looks like me these two > should have been removed in 2017 as well. > > Pardon my ignorance but I've just discovered about these two. Are > there any other commands/libraries like this which are candidates to > be removed? > > Other thoughts? Note that you cannot remove a symbol from symver-ed library. Look at what was done recently for gets(3) to have an idea how this could be handled.