From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 31 22:18:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 213641065684 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 22:18:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ivoras@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E94158FC28 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 22:18:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ivoras@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g13so1196085rvb.43 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 15:18:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=e7AW8LKfznUS1sk3PlYx+KizVipZHch5UuvVgXCX+KM=; b=d0/cAxe016yqoGN3oQLOApcircDoq5UcOLWGQax4eQ64To78eqaMeTd7Q/ruXkglibdgftXTMDbwG/Xx7FLIkagvSIVnSxumu+odCLsUnxS4wNZe2yuWzMxCQ54b0+/SAlDaIGsJnJF8hVfrxcairWZ4z+HP8fU/F1R/zySzzjs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=EYoZXvz/P+vunXGHfuXZ9AjZZ041nt91okkWHKhcOV8UuieREgbtJES2+EjdrzX7w43DqcnE+elFZBJ5W4Ct/YtGNhVpFVi6pJN33knhT65jVcBN0Jzbi9/na5sr4uoxbjlXVwxHGj3PsesT4d5HduEK04sMSsiZLMIiwX3I0y0= Received: by 10.141.211.13 with SMTP id n13mr3842976rvq.12.1207001911687; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 15:18:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.212.1 with HTTP; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 15:18:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <9bbcef730803311518h5e75a18dq1f11189ddae8b75c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 00:18:31 +0200 From: "Ivan Voras" Sender: ivoras@gmail.com To: "Scott Long" In-Reply-To: <47F15F3C.9060100@samsco.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <47F147D8.3030905@samsco.org> <9bbcef730803311409ha25effam9dd522c9084783ad@mail.gmail.com> <47F15772.5010104@samsco.org> <9bbcef730803311434s48d3269cs1e8ae0fd1eb7ffc3@mail.gmail.com> <47F15F3C.9060100@samsco.org> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 9f476f2b953da4ab Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Are large RAID stripe sizes useful with FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 22:18:32 -0000 On 01/04/2008, Scott Long wrote: > If you have a RAID controller in front of the disks then the effects of > TCQ are hidden from the OS; it might ultimately make the controller > complete requests faster, but the controller already looks to the OS > like a disk with a really deep queue. When you're dealing directly with > the disks then TCQ/NCQ is required in order for batching of concurrent > requests to occur. Thanks. I thought TCQ is also used between the OS and the controller (since the RAID array is presented to the OS as opaque...).