From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Oct 26 2: 4: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.tbv.se (smtp2.tbv.se [193.15.92.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C0D037B479 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 02:04:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by smtp2.tbv.se (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA37270; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 11:03:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from james.wilde@tbv.se) Received: from UNKNOWN(193.15.92.37), claiming to be "tbvhks12" via SMTP by smtp2.tbv.se, id smtpde37268; Thu Oct 26 11:03:51 2000 From: "James A Wilde" To: "Zaitsau, Andrei" Cc: Subject: RE: FW: My Experience With FreeBSD Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 11:06:02 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <054F7DAA9E54D311AD090008C74CE9BD01766CE2@exchange.panasonicfa.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Zaitsau, Andrei > Sent: den 26 oktober 2000 00:52 > To: 'ALAOUI EL HASSANI ALI' > Cc: 'freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG'; 'djohnson@acuson.com'; > 'vcardona@home.com'; 'kdavey@gus33.homeip.net' > Subject: RE: FW: My Experience With FreeBSD > > > Okay.. I hate doing this again. > But what makes the Computer manufacturers not to ship computers with > preinstalled FreeBSD on it, it has no licenses, it's free, it's > very robust > and reliable OS. They don't have to waste money on commercial OS then... > One more time, people won't buy those computers then, because FreeBSD will > be too complicated to them. Right, Andrei. And one has to say it: this problem of Windows supremacy is a self-inflicted wound for the UNIX community. The vast majority of people don't give a shit about computers. All they see is Word or Excel on a screen and it is a tool. When it 'doesn't work', whether it is a technical problem or a functional problem in Word, they call for the same person. The UNIX community, let's admit it, has fostered an air of mystique and complexity since time began. When it was DOS and UNIX unix had ls, cp, mv, rm and DOS had dir, copy, move and del. Within the last two days I have seen comments - in -questions, I think - speaking denigratingly of cluttered KDE and Gnome windows. Out there in the real world, clutered windows are the thing. In here, computer internals are fun and the cli is the thing. Windows are for wimps. I seem to remember that the word 'wimp' is an anacronym derived from Windows, Ixxx, Mouse and Pull-down menus. I don't remember what 'I' stood for - Interface, perhaps. Now, for the first time, when Linux has shown the way with direct installation of a Windows system, Solaris hs its CDE and even FreeBSD has a windowing system which one can install at the same time as the operating system, are we seeing people prepared to consider alternatives. But still it will be a case that they are interested in seeing a module from Star Office on the screen, and when the computer 'won't work', whether it is a technical problem or a functional problem, they will still send for the same person. Just my $0.02. mvh/regards James To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message