From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 21 14:51:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49BDB16A4DF; Fri, 21 Jul 2006 14:51:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sam@errno.com) Received: from ebb.errno.com (ebb.errno.com [69.12.149.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4770C43D5E; Fri, 21 Jul 2006 14:50:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sam@errno.com) Received: from [10.0.0.248] (trouble.errno.com [10.0.0.248]) (authenticated bits=0) by ebb.errno.com (8.13.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id k6LEom2C057312 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 21 Jul 2006 07:50:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sam@errno.com) Message-ID: <44C0E9C8.7000509@errno.com> Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 07:50:48 -0700 From: Sam Leffler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060508) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: obrien@FreeBSD.org References: <200607202242.k6KMgmQq064714@repoman.freebsd.org> <44C012D1.2050905@cs.rice.edu> <20060720.173927.790476985.imp@bsdimp.com> <20060721125118.GA6326@dragon.NUXI.org> In-Reply-To: <20060721125118.GA6326@dragon.NUXI.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: cvs-src@FreeBSD.org, src-committers@FreeBSD.org, alc@cs.rice.edu, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, "M. Warner Losh" Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/share/mk bsd.cpu.mk X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 14:51:07 -0000 David O'Brien wrote: > On Thu, Jul 20, 2006 at 05:39:27PM -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote: >> In message: <44C012D1.2050905@cs.rice.edu> >> Alan Cox writes: >> : Warner Losh wrote: >> : >> : >imp 2006-07-20 22:42:48 UTC >> : > >> : > FreeBSD src repository >> : > >> : > Modified files: >> : > share/mk bsd.cpu.mk >> : > Log: >> : > Remove ALPHA optimization pointer for gcc flags. >> : > Add ARM optimization pointer for gcc flags. >> : > >> : > Revision Changes Path >> : > 1.53 +1 -1 src/share/mk/bsd.cpu.mk >> : > >> : > >> : I'm curious. Is there an ETA for a working arm tool-chain in CVS HEAD? >> >> As soon as I can work out with David how he wants me to commit it. Or >> until I get tired of waiting and make any mistakes I make his problem >> as punishment for not getting back to me in a timely manner. > > I'm working on getting it in upstream first - what was decided in the > past as the proper path to grow new architectures in FreeBSD. Otherwise > we can go down the same path we did in the past where our toolchain > diverged very far from the GNU sources and we were left on own > maintaining them. Note that from what I've seen none of the anxious ARM > kernel developers have spent one once of time on this issue. Not sure why you have not seen "anxious ARM kernel developers"; there are now quite a few people w/ boards trying to get going and everyone has to patch CVS to do anything. > > I'd like to ask when we'll get ARM resources in the FreeBSD.org cluster > so committers can have access to ARM - I don't. So it is hard to test > anything. Until a month ago no one would agree on a reference platform > so toolchain work could be tested vs. spending all my time trying to get > something working that no one else had. I am still waiting to get the > ARM board I purchased in my hands and working. Last I heard your avila board was in transit or had arrived. Regardless I think it's going to be problematic to expect there be copies of some of these embedded platforms present in the cluster. I believe the logistics are nontrivial. > > Alan I'm curious, for you what is the rush? > People have boards and want to get things running. This is slowing us down. Sam