From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 26 21:08:35 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6B2C16A417 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2007 21:08:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsdlists@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5864113C45D for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2007 21:08:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsdlists@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 70so905793wra for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2007 14:08:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=zjFVwHQhBJ3skVno16/14J8XTAH8Age5AjVg6QzkyW4=; b=XHepEvH1okoZYIYGyyGfjZ2VaJx+WOxivCLt0N3lgPammILVhuw0rfWIWrym1zIt5wSjX/QRoWutF2vCUMFVuuXoPhCcPq/8nvL/FDOwXVEJrdQmcHGmkmqFAeMWpnMM2fKG4uiU4nnsFknflDDSgjkCkzCFQAQBx2DiTbYW4H8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=aLkwE5Fw6xHNAdpIvcQ6FgUO4Wmef10a1XOjFXl4czI5yFinf301/bIpmfUFORxN3a+a7lJK0JHgxSBhcpqgeauycK/cfIaS6KlR1rb3N5gxJBLLblc/k1XtlojadlOMyaG5gaqcoFiltfF/gNlUSYppCcE39ie4bmcMLj/RXa8= Received: by 10.115.47.1 with SMTP id z1mr1588152waj.1190840898261; Wed, 26 Sep 2007 14:08:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.12.14 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Sep 2007 14:08:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <54db43990709261408t369a1cacte6ece03585b24fd4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 17:08:18 -0400 From: "Bob Johnson" To: freebsd@celestial.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20070925233531.GA10266@ayn.mi.celestial.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <539c60b90709241100y212651cdj7caf3780e5035fb7@mail.gmail.com> <46F7FC68.1040207@math.arizona.edu> <46F7FF9D.6050000@acm.org> <20070925233531.GA10266@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Cc: Subject: Re: anyone have a favorite laptop? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 21:08:35 -0000 On 9/25/07, Bill Campbell wrote: > I used Thinkpads for about 10 years with various Linux systems. > My last one was a Thinkpad 600 which I used continuously from > August 1999 through March 2007 when I got a Mac Powerbook (now if > only I could run OS X on a Thinkpad :-). > > We have used a fair variety of Thinkpads with our auction > software for the last 10 years or so with excellent results. Fortunately you were using Linux. For some Thinkpads, IBM arbitrarily picked a system ID for their suspend-to-disk partition that was the same as FreeBSD UFS (165). The result was you could not boot the Thinkpad after you installed FreeBSD, until IBM changed the sysid and you updated your BIOS. I ran into this about six years ago when I got a hand-me-down Thinkpad. Info at http://www.unixguide.net/freebsd/faq/03.10.shtml. This was a problem for some new Thinkpads at least as late as 2002. Moral: the ability to run Linux does not imply the ability to run FreeBSD. - Bob