From owner-freebsd-chat Sat May 30 22:27:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA05417 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Sat, 30 May 1998 22:27:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hwcn.org (ac199@james.hwcn.org [199.212.94.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA05396; Sat, 30 May 1998 22:27:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hoek@hwcn.org) Received: from localhost (ac199@localhost) by hwcn.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA17428; Sun, 31 May 1998 01:21:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 01:21:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Vanderhoek To: Jack Velte cc: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: notFreeBSD plan, v 4 In-Reply-To: <01bd8c41$e0262100$4a1daace@eliot.pacbell.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 30 May 1998, Jack Velte wrote: > contribution metrics: > * # emails on list, exponentially decreasing average. > * # & length (outside of comments) emails on list, > exponentially decreasing average. > * lines of source code, minus symbol only lines. > * core team members. > * popular vote, clicking on the web. Egads! None of those could work. Among other things, we strive to minimize source code size, and the mailing-lists already suffer from too much mail. > "To produce the best possible software at the lowest possible price > while making stakeholders rich." I think a slightly fundamental problem is that too many people here do not share your vision. If they (we) were interested in $$$, better ways to make $$$ than throwing away many hours into a volunteer project would have long-ago been found. Perhaps that's the "problem" with developing a philosophy for FreeBSD. MS, for example, can simply state their mission as `to dominate the desktop', or whatever. They then unite behind this. The reasons for the existance of FreeBSD are much much more varied and too complex to allow a simple mission statement. Consider the range from the dedicated researcher-advocate (a-la Terry Lambert) to those under corporate influence (a-la the guy from Sun interested in porting FreeBSD to whatever non-Intel architecture (my memory ability varies inversely with the hour, so excuse my here :)) to the young kid hacker who just wants to know what makes his computer go (or whatever sound he hears it making). -- Outnumbered? Maybe. Outspoken? Never! tIM...HOEk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message