From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Dec 11 22:48:18 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA11392 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 22:48:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from beaver.cs.washington.edu (beaver.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA11370 Mon, 11 Dec 1995 22:48:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from tera.com (tera.com [128.95.3.1]) by beaver.cs.washington.edu (8.7.2/7.1be+) with SMTP id WAA20593; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 22:48:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from tao.UUCP by tera.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA04168; Mon, 11 Dec 95 22:47:15 PST Received: by tao.thought.org (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0tPOTp-0001QzC; Mon, 11 Dec 95 22:46 PST Message-Id: From: kline@tao.thought.org (Gary D. Kline) Subject: Re: What ever happened to... ? To: scrappy@hub.org (Marc G. Fournier) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 22:46:25 -0800 (PST) Cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com, questions@FreeBSD.org, hackers@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Marc G. Fournier" at Dec 11, 95 11:42:21 pm Organization: <> thought.org: public access uNix in service... <> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP2] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk According to Marc G. Fournier: > > On Mon, 11 Dec 1995, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > > 1. The "BSD Consortium" or whatever proposed awhile back. Everyone > > > was so eager to donate $$$, but then it just died. > > > > I have no idea, though I've finally provided details on donating to > > FreeBSD itself for those interested, see: > > http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/submitters.html > > > > (it's also chapter 17 of the handbook). > > > > I haven't collected enough to buy so much as a disk drive yet, but > > hope springs eternal. There are about 3-4 developers who could really > > use development systems, and I'd certainly like to build them ones. > > > [...] > > For instance...someone here mentioned something about t-shirts > and whatnot? That was the first I've ever heard about it, and the > last. I'd go for a coffee mug with the BSD Kirk's daemon on it ((and be sure to avoid the environs around Dallas!)); or a tee- or a sweatshirt. But then you're getting into business, which I've learned the hard way, is _way_ over my head... . In April, '94 I saw the first issue of a small magazine on Linux. Chances are that it did not survive, but if it did, why not join up with them. Together the *BSD world and the Linuxers are probably 1% of the market. Separately? *ouch*. > Or, how about a list of what is required, and approx. costs > for it. Break it down according to some sort of "development group". > > Then, individuals could support those aspects that are > important to them. > > Personally, if proper accounting procedures were put into > place so that one were kept informed abotu how much money came in, > and how much went to different projects, I'd be willing to "pay for > support" in the way of development on the OS. > > *shrug* I don't know...how many ppl out there know enough to > help Terry out with continuing the SMP development, but can't afford > the hardware, or don't personally need it? > > Or, hey, here's one...who makes up the FreeBSD CDroms? how > much does it cost to make them? how much of a markup do "resellers" > put on them? how hard would it be to setup a network of "distributors" > that are associated with "the Project" who basically keeps a limited > stock of the CDroms available for resale, with "all profits going back > to the Project"? Better yet, what would it take to make a CDrom > distribution "in house" so that you could offer up to date > distributions? > > And *takes deep breath* finally, how many ppl are using > FreeBSD right now? Does anyone have any statistics on it? I'd like to have a rough idea, too. My SWAG is that it's about the same as the number of computer users who are in the upper 0.5 percentile. > > -- Gary D. Kline kline@tao.thought.org Public access uNix