From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 20 14:00:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58659106566C for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:00:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: from sigma.octantis.com.au (ns2.octantis.com.au [207.44.189.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F5728FC1F for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:00:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: (qmail 24961 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2008 09:00:03 -0500 Received: from 124-170-131-220.dyn.iinet.net.au (HELO localhost) (124.170.131.220) by sigma.octantis.com.au with (DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 20 Mar 2008 09:00:02 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 00:59:55 +1100 From: Norberto Meijome Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080321005955.05757bb2@meijome.net> In-Reply-To: <47E16308.2070304@magichamster.com> References: <20080318043141.6f77d21b.kgunders@teamcool.net> <47DFAA94.7090205@boosten.org> <47E16308.2070304@magichamster.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: X.org 7.3 sure is a mess... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:00:03 -0000 On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 19:01:28 +0000 Mark Ovens wrote: > Peter Boosten wrote: > > Ken Gunderson wrote: > >> [snip] > >>> Looks like you're having a problem with your window manager, instead of > >>> Xorg. > >>> > >>> Mine (with enlightenment-devel) works like charm. None of the issues > >>> you describe anyway. > >>> > >>> Peter > >> > >> So how would you explain that I am seeing same type of behaviors in > >> straight "startx" with default twm, i.e. bundled Xorg wm? > >> > > > > Dunno. But the troubles cannot originate from the xorg ports, or > > everyone would see the same behaviour, right? > > > > > Maybe some other port, or hardware (maybe your video card? - just > > guessing), or the driver for that particular piece of hardware. > > > > One would expect so, but it would appear not to be the case. I'm having > the same problem - if I ssh in from another box I see the Xorg process > sucking >100% CPU and the state is *GIANT I would very much like to see a process using "> 100% CPU" :) What CPU ? I haven't seen GIANT on Xorg for a while...but, again, I don't check all the time :d anyway... my xorg sits at 7.81% on select...i've been on this session for 17 hours, and have a heavily loaded xfce session with 10 virt desktops. I actually recently removed the lower limit for cpufreq to drop the freq and i've been hovering @ 200 Mhz (measured once a second in gkrellm), although right now I'm between 800 and 1000 Mhz. could you please send your xorg.conf ? have you tried attaching ktrace to xorg in those situations and seeing what it is doing ? what about other system vitals ? is your disk trashing ? RAM usage? > > I'm using an ATI card but people are having the same issue with nVidia > and Matrox cards. My box has run every version of Xorg since it replaced > XFree86 on FreeBSD and many versions of XFree86 before that without this > problem. > > Also, the problem seems to come and go for me as I update my ports, i.e. > the box has the problem, I run ``portmaster -a'' and the problem goes > away. sometime later I run ``portmaster -a'' again and the problem > re-appears. Only seems to happen when X-related stuff gets updated. maybe if you can pinpoint WHAT gets updated it would be of more help :) the ati drivers had several updates over the last few months... > The other thing I've noticed is, on my box at least, that the problem > always starts when I move the mouse (not every time of course) so could > it be Xorg 7.3 not playing nicely with the mouse driver - or the USB > driver since my mouse is a USB one? Which may explain why some people > see the problem and others don't? I'd like to see a count of hands ... who DOESN'T use USB mice or built-in-mice-in-laptops nowadays... by any chance you wouldn't have the xcomposite extension enabled... ? > This is really becoming a big PITA. i understand, but without concrete information it wont go anywhere fast :) B _________________________ {Beto|Norberto|Numard} Meijome "He loves nature in spite of what it did to him." Forrest Tucker I speak for myself, not my employer. Contents may be hot. Slippery when wet. Reading disclaimers makes you go blind. Writing them is worse. You have been Warned.