From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 7 14:17:38 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BF9537B411 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 14:17:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alcanet.com.au (mail3.alcanet.com.au [208.178.117.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8265B43FE1 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 14:17:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au) Received: from sydsmtp01.alcatel.com.au (IDENT:root@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1])h37LHTis021533; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 07:17:29 +1000 Received: from gsmx07.alcatel.com.au ([139.188.20.247]) by sydsmtp01.alcatel.com.au (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.11) with ESMTP id 2003040807172789:3805 ; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 07:17:27 +1000 Received: from gsmx07.alcatel.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gsmx07.alcatel.com.au (8.12.8/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h37LHRai049116; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 07:17:27 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au) Received: (from jeremyp@localhost) by gsmx07.alcatel.com.au (8.12.8/8.12.5/Submit) id h37LHRdW049115; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 07:17:27 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 07:17:27 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy To: Jim Pazarena Message-ID: <20030407211727.GW310@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> Mail-Followup-To: Jim Pazarena , stable@freebsd.org References: <20030407194038.GA18372@qcislands.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20030407194038.GA18372@qcislands.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on SYDSMTP01/AlcatelAustralia(Release 5.0.11 |July 24, 2002) at 08/04/2003 07:17:27 AM,|July 24, 2002) at 08/04/2003 07:17:29 AM, Serialize complete at 08/04/2003 07:17:29 AM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.8-Release disk3 and disk4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 21:17:39 -0000 On 2003-Apr-07 12:40:38 -0700, Jim Pazarena wrote: >I've never read a posting which explains why the ftp site doesn't >have a full size disc 2 and is missing disk 3 & 4 for v5.0 The simple explanation is that this is all the FreeBSD project itself creates. The ports packages that filled up CD's 2, 3 and 4 are no longer part of the "official" FreeBSD -RELEASE image. Back when the Project was associated with Walnut Creek, Walnut Creek paid the Project (by employing the Release Engineer) to create a 4-CD release set and the entire 4-CD set was make available via the Walnut Creek FTP site (which hosted ftp.FreeBSD.org). FreeBSD is no longer closely linked to any CD vendor and the Project has decided that the effort involved in integrating the ports collection into the -RELEASE CDs can be better utilised elsewhere. Amongst the reasons are: 1) The ports collection no longer comes anywhere near fitting onto 4 CDs. The decision of what to include or exclude (and how many disks to offer) is a value judgement which forms part of the "value add" by the various vendors. 2) At least one vendor provides a DVD release and CD images are not a appropriate path to generate a -RELEASE DVD. 3) The individual ports distfiles and packages are already available via FTP. You are welcome to fetch the ports that are relevant to yourself rather than having to fetch 2.5GB of CD images. Peter