From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 12 19:48:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA10926 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 12 Feb 1998 19:48:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sabre.goldsword.com (sabre.goldsword.com [199.170.202.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA10917 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 1998 19:48:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jfarmer@sabre.goldsword.com) Received: (from jfarmer@localhost) by sabre.goldsword.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA07752; Thu, 12 Feb 1998 22:18:37 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 22:18:37 -0500 (EST) From: "John T. Farmer" Message-Id: <199802130318.WAA07752@sabre.goldsword.com> To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, joe@thebestisp.com Subject: Re: Fw: FreeBSD firewall questions Cc: jfarmer@goldsword.com Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 23:54:22 -0600 "Joe" said: >IF YOU DO NOT NEED TO CONNECT MORE THAN TWO COMPUTERS DO NOT USE A HUB! (did >the caps get your 'tension?) the reasons are simple 1 a hub costs money and >if you were into spending money you wouldn't be using freebsd you'd be >dealing (and spending a fortune for the same or less effect) with a >Microsoft or comperable product. And second you can't expect to get better >that 60%(+-) ie: 6Mbps rather than 10Mbps throughput so you are paying for >latency and collissions..Just my two cents.. > Where shall I begin? 1. I don't use FreeBSD because it's cheap, I use it because it is the best tool for the work I do. 2. Hubs are not very expensive. A basic 4 or 8 port hub is less than $100 (even DataComm Warehouse has a 3com for <$100!!) 3. 2 computers wired through a cross-over cable _WILL_NOT_ achieve any greater throughput than _the_same_two_computers_ connected through a hub. If you need, we can step through the math. (But not tonight, I have a headache...) 4. In almost every instance that one of my client's have installed a cross-over cable between two Ethernet devices, they have ended up replacing it shortly with a hub. Why? If you have two machines wired together, soon there will be a reason to be able to connect up the laptop from work, or Junior's PC, or... For a Firewall/Router type of setup, I still recommend a small hub. Makes it easier to locate external services (outside web ftp, etc.) between the outside router and the firewall. E'nuff Said? John ------------------------------------------------------------------------- John T. Farmer Proprietor, GoldSword Systems jfarmer@goldsword.com Public Internet Access in East Tennessee dial-in (423)470-9953 for info, e-mail to info@goldsword.com Network Design, Internet Services & Servers, Consulting To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message