From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Wed Mar 18 19:24:47 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBD0426A1BF for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2020 19:24:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpeddiem@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48jKjq1s3sz4KY0 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2020 19:24:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpeddiem@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 33CF826A1BE; Wed, 18 Mar 2020 19:24:47 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: hackers@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3284B26A1BD for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2020 19:24:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpeddiem@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io1-f45.google.com (mail-io1-f45.google.com [209.85.166.45]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48jKjn545Hz4KVH for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2020 19:24:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpeddiem@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io1-f45.google.com with SMTP id c19so25125894ioo.6 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2020 12:24:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=tm10uX0fu1Si4Q5r8+rc4dnmAuqfmv+dOa/tHygWWJs=; b=NILhCAogt3MiL3tdOx5rMVhXKQRf6MUZs50BNfoDNhusevjywVTeQob99325n8a9lD bnia98rHGCfF9SYPOB6ijyR6W6j11t2mHZOdRY9bJnV6SOIcmLZpSk1AqG+tg5l0nbS8 VYEEQV2d7EH3a8bmGgycR/RYCq2owu4diwhkk6+IydA1QkbfuoB20rxFpREdlTRsogUk C9UEuuB2WKpUXwsZpYlsXJ1o75UqfRdSdnO7yqyOwC1OlfsK8wOSfR98aSjL1mtAQwGW 2KVSAzBMSREdgDTTGKWYVtODGF5SaOzVrG3D48o84thYTFcFhxkGYXGOKsRcgyGj/zuX DjPQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ANhLgQ2OMQvTJCOiTIbIzcB0etFPXgdLcjA2fE42jkMFeLtNTYjbFewP j4j1/qPBPQaj6B9UUZeq+HjHhuRrD6U7Xyn4zLY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADFU+vvuN8mR6R1ziIoxSt/GX8ogWRXCCEtLpSpMgD20UgtElSWMhYf+9J2O1s3D2+k0AKLfNgDE7Fsy/K5oXwzmUfA= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:c8d4:: with SMTP id y203mr5263931iof.111.1584559484170; Wed, 18 Mar 2020 12:24:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Ed Maste Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2020 15:24:31 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: HEADS UP: importing kyua into the base system To: bsd-lists@bsdforge.com Cc: hackers@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48jKjn545Hz4KVH X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of carpeddiem@gmail.com designates 209.85.166.45 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=carpeddiem@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.79 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:209.85.128.0/17]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[hackers@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[freebsd.org]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[45.166.85.209.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(-1.79)[ip: (-4.28), ipnet: 209.85.128.0/17(-2.97), asn: 15169(-1.65), country: US(-0.05)]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[emaste@freebsd.org,carpeddiem@gmail.com]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[45.166.85.209.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:209.85.128.0/17, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[emaste@freebsd.org,carpeddiem@gmail.com]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2020 19:24:48 -0000 On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 at 23:13, Chris wrote: > > Anyway. It read funny to me. So somehow thought it worth a mention. I think you're right, it's a bit confusing or doesn't give the right impression. kyua is not trying to ensure minimal stability. Maybe "minimal guarantee of stability"? That said, I don't think there's all that much value in using kyua as a system stability test. It's useful in providing some level of smoke test.