From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jul 9 11:32:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net (swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F58937B401 for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 11:32:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from mindspring.com (dialup-209.244.104.114.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net [209.244.104.114]) by swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA08318; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 11:32:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3B49F8D5.2C9BFA73@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 11:32:53 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Reply-To: tlambert2@mindspring.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: shannon@widomaker.com, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral References: <20010706144935.A61843@xor.obsecurity.org> <3B4650D0.97F10B83@bellatlantic.net> <20010707002340.B16071@widomaker.com> <20010707004731V.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jordan Hubbard wrote: > Erm, I really think that some folks are missing the point with all > this. It's not up to the foundation to determine how the release bits > are distributed nor has it ever been, just as it's not up to the > release engineer or the FreeBSD core team to determine how the > foundation spends any money it collects. Each is a completely > separate entities with its own methods of picking "officers" and > making decisions. They should all certainly be on friendly terms as > they're all in the same "FreeBSD boat", but people really need to be > careful about making assumptions about what the Foundation does or, > for that matter, the core team does. If you haven't heard something > explicitly stated as a part of some group's public mandate, please > don't assume that it's the case. :( Except that he who controls the trademark is he who gets to bless the distributions with its use -- or to deny its use. > I think Nik already did a good job of covering this. If you > distribute, at a minimum, the "base bits" that will come on the > mini-ISO image and make it clear that the standard installation tools > are present and should be used for any "stock" FreeBSD installation > experience, you're in the clear. Historically, you've always held that the CDROM must boot to sysinstall. As the software's daddy, I can see why you'd want that; but your baby is ugly. I don't see anyone stepping up to replace it any time soon, so long as you insist that they not be able to make money from it, and they can't use the trademark if the don't include that blecherous software as the default thing to which CDROMs boot. Yetch. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message