From owner-freebsd-advocacy Tue Nov 3 14:15:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA21701 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:15:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Loki.orland.u91.k12.me.us (Loki.orland.u91.k12.me.us [169.244.111.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA21693 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:15:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from netmonger@genesis.ispace.com) Received: from celeris (56k-port4004.ime.net [209.90.195.14]) by Loki.orland.u91.k12.me.us (8.9.1/8.8.8-Loki) with SMTP id RAA14395; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:11:01 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from netmonger@genesis.ispace.com) X-Server-ID: Loki.orland.u91.k12.me.us, OCSNet - Orland Maine USA X-Coord-Name: Drew "Droobie" Baxter, OneNetwork Exchange X-Coord-Addr: Droobie@Openlink.orland.me.us X-Coord-Pager: USA: 207-471-2719, http://pagedroo.orland.me.us Message-Id: <4.1.19981103170405.00a94280@genesis.ispace.com> X-Sender: netmonger@genesis.ispace.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 17:09:01 -0500 To: Phillip Salzman , Terry Lambert From: Drew Baxter Subject: Re: Internet Explorer and UNIX Cc: grog@lemis.com, wes@softweyr.com, scott@dcs.qmw.ac.uk, licia@o-o.org, jcwells@u.washington.edu, advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: <199811031907.MAA02861@usr05.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 04:01 PM 11/3/98 +0000, Phillip Salzman wrote: > > >On Tue, 3 Nov 1998, Terry Lambert wrote: > >> > I'd rather live on the assumption that Internet Explorer has not invaded >> > the UNIX world. even if they are on Solaris. That way we can leave the >> > whole Microsoft channel out of the mix altogether and live in a life of >> > Happy Little Trees and the wonderful world of Not-Microsoft. >> > > > I disagree. If we want third-party software companies to create >applications for our platform, we cannot be totally anti-microsoft. Even >if the company who is creating the software is against MS. I note that >Microsoft's tactics are not the nicest in the world, but we have nothing >to fear of them - free software cannot be bought and shut down. > > Porting MSIE to Solaris and HP-UX was actually a good move for the >UNIX industry. It shows the most popular OS vendor, making software for >an operating system it does not produce. This has slapped suit's in the >face with ``Hey, whats Solaris?'' questions that will get them looking >at other systems. When people start asking questions, things happen. > > I think I am going to go back to playing with IE on my FreeBSD >workstation right now (running it off the SPARC20 that is across the >office, to my display.) > >-- >Phillip Salzman >"I didn't break it, I swear!..." > I don't agree with that. Sure it's PR for Microsoft regarding favoring their own OS, but Netscape already had a pretty decent handle on the market before they came in. Microsoft buys into markets where they do not belong. See Microsoft Network? That's a pretty clear view of that. America Online already has the market in "Internet Online" Services (I find that title rather corny). Microsoft also bought into Web Browsers. By basing their product off of Mosaic, they enter yet another market where there is already a more capable company (Netscape) producing a product that is their sole reason for existance. Netscape makes products for the web and having to do with the net and the web. I would buy a toaster from Proctor-Silex, not from the Seiko Watch Company. People and corporations need to learn to have a DISTINCT existance in a market, and leave the one-level marketplaces alone, ESPECIALLY Netscape. It's one thing to make a product to compete with a company that isn't fulfilling their end of the bargain, it's another to try to eradicate them with the ability of hiring a ton of programmers and submerge them with their 86%(?) Home OS Power.. --- Drew "Droobie" Baxter Network Admin/Professional Computer Nerd(TM) OneEX: The OneNetwork Exchange 207-942-0275 http://www.droo.orland.me.us My Latest Kernel: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT (ONEEX) #14: Mon Oct 19 22:36:58 EDT 1998 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message