From owner-freebsd-security Mon Feb 10 12:24:25 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 801F037B401 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 12:24:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from fubar.adept.org (fubar.adept.org [63.147.172.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAAC343F75 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 12:24:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@adept.org) Received: by fubar.adept.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id CBA4815333; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 12:21:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fubar.adept.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C96A615315 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 12:21:58 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 12:21:58 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Hoskins To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The way forward In-Reply-To: <20030130024520.GJ83557@smnolde.com> Message-ID: <20030210121510.J23524-100000@fubar.adept.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Scott M. Nolde wrote: > Not to start a flame war either, but I like both and use both ipfw and ipf > together. Is it better to eat apples or oranges? Surely the question depends on a lot... Is the target hungry? Do they like red/green/yellow or orange more? What is the current phase of the moon? So, "ipfw or ipf?" Surely this question also depends on a lot. Read the man pages, and decide for yourself! I encourage this, because most people I know that have used both walk away saying "there are reasons to use both" and not "I love X and Y sucks." If there was no reason for ipf, I doubt it would have been developed. If there was no reason for ipfw, I doubt it would be maintained and updated (ipfw2). I've also heard some untrue statements here, which once again points to the need to read the man page. Also, perhaps the authors of the code should refrain from comment so long as it's simply "mine is better." ;) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message