From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 9 08:59:21 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA16802 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 9 Jan 1999 08:59:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from po4.wam.umd.edu (po4.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA16656 for ; Sat, 9 Jan 1999 08:59:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from culverk@wam.umd.edu) Received: from rac10.wam.umd.edu ((IDENT root)@rac10.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.150]) by po4.wam.umd.edu (8.9.0.Beta6/8.9.0.Beta6) with ESMTP id MAA18528; Sat, 9 Jan 1999 12:00:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from rac10.wam.umd.edu ((IDENT sendmail)@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rac10.wam.umd.edu (8.9.0.Beta6/8.9.0.Beta6) with SMTP id LAA09925; Sat, 9 Jan 1999 11:58:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by rac10.wam.umd.edu (8.9.0.Beta6/8.9.0.Beta6) with SMTP id LAA09920; Sat, 9 Jan 1999 11:58:43 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: rac10.wam.umd.edu: culverk owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 11:58:42 -0500 (EST) From: Kenneth Wayne Culver To: Garrett Wollman cc: Bryan Seitz , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Celeron and Celeron ( Mendocino ) kernel patch. In-Reply-To: <199901091622.LAA07272@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > < said: > > > Well, they are the same in that respect, but the Pentium II has cache in > > the same package, and most Pentium II's aren't overclockable. The celeron > > is. > > That's OK -- we don't support overclocking anyway. > > The Celeron does have a cache in the package, BTW. The cache in the > Celeron is this tiny little thing that is actually capable of running > at clock rates of 250 MHz or higher; the actual CPU is a perfectly > ordinary Pentium-II core of the sort that would be labeled as ``450 > MHz'' when coupled with a more expensive cache. (According to my > friend who does VLSI design.) The Celeron chips are intentionally > down-rated by Intel marketing to keep them from cannibalizing the > high-end market. (Remember when upgrading to a faster line printer > meant that a SE would change a single belt?) > > I think we should stick to identifying the core. I wasn't disagreeing with that, I was just saying what I said about the cache. Intel would have you believe that there is not any cache on the Celeron. Kenneth Culver To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message