From owner-freebsd-security@freebsd.org Wed Jul 13 11:29:29 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-security@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69BA0B97721 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 11:29:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22e.google.com (mail-wm0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0E7E41FC1 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 11:29:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id i5so64224694wmg.0 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 04:29:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=zPQOvYeDijBaeGLjiCaUc4G4+eINzCutfMkjJs2kP/Q=; b=fLzRhkhibPqz4qcy2LDDwSYgWMl3eteDenfgR7CZEizKWsXIkLHyhdK66FI/VbwGQ0 7YIkCXPpuDFRpQJCrPfpbsD78xK9ziWMyURmfTQfCFo1kYO9MwBH0t1qGfNIESGQvRVa msum9rfKgXFDtNegKNHvoPzUPzN2YE+kqQDQmSnKyr+loJZSWleSx1vRcqLRWcr2XHbk NBtqGno6pB1jVFalbODd0oCHnj0kREq0oYZakgu5/LqefTQPk6lcLnrv1i35VRG3op7L RhRfWr3scilfOjehHepPrrjaJ5b+36QfRYoBYUFNFWsaLtgHsp7VnxVgr8VhmAQhGGE2 W7Kw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=zPQOvYeDijBaeGLjiCaUc4G4+eINzCutfMkjJs2kP/Q=; b=ZcaOAGq3BsY9/lecQJLIV4azjjHTY/yeudRaqTUhQI/fpgtwXZEUnHvt+1Zz3TcPSM qY0cIqZRUMuiuckuuxojyHmk+RVwdNiy6SvU1/hlRJn5MCvr/Ng/+fctTNCzQSFRlEw4 91fjvDLeDO0VdwOxmZmTwpULWs//eSHl9pmeZiPnUHTmVD29OkTG25O6xBOxBgWD4xtT yPjNx8SR2WMab3EwUdXbaaKPUMIH/Voep1M9cIF7iek3NgA+ek+HaTjsXQKHP2zVTSJf /RGmZu0Xt3Pm779CLtQRqYVNQAiE4BFTsJwLQuxt1t/YTbxNgSX9e2uF4/6SZQMr9ZAO aQ2A== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tI1OM0DhOMEROonNGwKNT29+DsipuOmNhFRVYy8VOuAdCy3ZV6H+kC+NBar73jNsg== X-Received: by 10.28.167.144 with SMTP id q138mr9688633wme.83.1468409366790; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 04:29:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com ([81.171.74.106]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id v3sm419006wjk.46.2016.07.13.04.29.25 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Wed, 13 Jul 2016 04:29:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 12:29:23 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD - a lesson in poor defaults? Message-ID: <20160713122923.058ee43e@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <429620683.344.1468405521739@office.mailbox.org> References: <20160713073859.GA88448@localhost.lu> <57860275.404@obluda.cz> <300EEE78-1BF1-460E-ABDD-8EA5C4809941@localhost.lu> <429620683.344.1468405521739@office.mailbox.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "Security issues \[members-only posting\]" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 11:29:29 -0000 On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 12:25:21 +0200 (CEST) Simon Krenz wrote: > IMHO I can agree with most of the statements written down in this > text. I can not understand why I need ntpd or sendmail activated in > default installations. ntpd isn't activated by default.