From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 12 23:36:08 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D2DD1065674 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 23:36:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 040238FC18 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 23:36:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 23699 invoked by uid 0); 12 Nov 2010 23:36:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 12 Nov 2010 23:36:07 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=NKWAZ/x0bMOl4sSRD7dIuy76T/Wcb/SZBwgMSYQe6b92Z5ya1x2wcrJhaCaBGzS1t2Rw6U0+JZkBAHyoVgovELLFsFc6uZzeJ0b9BH+JkZFbzLBEonbDiuoC7muGMI65; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PH3A6-0002Ls-0A for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 16:36:07 -0700 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 12 Nov 2010 16:29:54 -0700 Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 16:29:54 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: Free BSD Questions list Message-ID: <20101112232954.GA41199@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: Free BSD Questions list References: <20101112192954.GB18437@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20101112223810.GA19635@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20101112223810.GA19635@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 23:36:08 -0000 --UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 05:38:10PM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: >=20 > You would have starved before now if other people had your attitude. Not at all. It does indeed involve indulging others to do what you described. There is nothing necessarily wrong with that, but "indulgent" is exactly what it is. While it may be "intelligent" to do so as well (depending on circumstances and goals), it is not *the* intelligent thing to do, which implies that anything else is necessarily "unintelligent". May other approaches could be intelligent as well, including some non-indulgent approaches. This "attitude" does not preclude being indulgent, and I'm sure that any of us who have that "attitude" would indulge our children (if we have them) by feeding them in their youth to ensure they do not starve. One would hope, however, that we would teach those children to be a bit more self-sufficient before they reach the age of majority, however -- and that this self-sufficiency might suggest to them that a first approach to figuring out how to find out why a particular OS uses a given logo might be to check Wikipedia or search Google, or even to check the mailing list archives, before making accusatory, holier-than-thou demands of the community in the mailing list. The entire approach of the OP's demands was offensive and showed a distinct attitude of unwarranted entitlement. It should be no wonder that people did not respond positively, especially given that it happens probably about twice a year. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkzdzfIACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKVhjQCgnDiD5oE0UUssWIKfurdpMqC9 dg8AoOxWsr8XZXIN+W96qznZOydgBqER =Ou8Z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2--