From owner-freebsd-current Sun Dec 15 14:35:44 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 606D537B401; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 14:35:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED0F043EC2; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 14:35:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1D8895194B; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 09:05:40 +1030 (CST) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 09:05:40 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Terry Lambert Cc: Alex , phk@FreeBSD.ORG, Johnson David , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 80386 out of GENERIC Message-ID: <20021215223540.GB97271@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <24244.1039900460@critter.freebsd.dk> <9710634521.20021214232526@dds.nl> <3DFC0AB1.D60AAF66@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DFC0AB1.D60AAF66@mindspring.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Saturday, 14 December 2002 at 20:53:05 -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: > Alex wrote: >> It means that you can not install FreeBSD on a 386 unless you have a >> 486+ machine that can compile a new FreeBSD system and have a way to >> get that version to the 386. > > Yes, this is true. Several of us were annoyed by the change, > which appeared at the time to have been done solely to handle > the fact that the newly installed device /dev/random sucked > too much CPU time to work on a 386. That's an interesting apparition. In fact, it was done because the locking primitives for i386 are so different from those for later machines that they would significantly slow down all i[>3]86 kernels. Since that's the vast majority, it doesn't make sense. I suppose it would be a good idea to include an alternatvie i386 kernel on the CD-ROM. There may be a space issue, of course. How many people participating in this thread have an i386 with at least 12 MB of memory and intended to try 5.0 on it? How many of those don't have a machine to bootstrap off? Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message