From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 13 15:11:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2ED516A41F; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 15:11:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stijn@pcwin002.win.tue.nl) Received: from kweetal.tue.nl (kweetal.tue.nl [131.155.3.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65D4343D46; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 15:11:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stijn@pcwin002.win.tue.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kweetal.tue.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EE8213B725; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 16:11:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from kweetal.tue.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (kweetal.tue.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 82851-01; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 16:11:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from umta.win.tue.nl (umta.win.tue.nl [131.155.71.100]) by kweetal.tue.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C58113B73E; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 16:11:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from pcwin002.win.tue.nl (pcwin002 [131.155.71.72]) by umta.win.tue.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58C5931401C; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 16:11:31 +0100 (CET) Received: by pcwin002.win.tue.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 562DA40BC; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 16:11:31 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 16:11:31 +0100 From: Stijn Hoop To: Andrey Chernov , Michael Nottebrock , freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG, Norikatsu Shigemura , ports@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <20051113151131.GG69544@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> References: <200511130038.jAD0cgLb043746@sakura.ninth-nine.com> <20051113212402.bf0fe702.nork@FreeBSD.org> <20051113125046.GA44237@nagual.pp.ru> <200511131526.05488.lofi@freebsd.org> <20051113145814.GA74866@nagual.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="aZoGpuMECXJckB41" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051113145814.GA74866@nagual.pp.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Bright-Idea: Let's abolish HTML mail! X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at tue.nl Cc: Subject: Re: Integrated DEBUG related macros to WITH_DEBUG/WITHOUT_DEBUG X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 15:11:43 -0000 --aZoGpuMECXJckB41 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Nov 13, 2005 at 05:58:14PM +0300, Andrey Chernov wrote: > On Sun, Nov 13, 2005 at 03:25:59PM +0100, Michael Nottebrock wrote: > > Yes, that's my main gripe with it as well. It's at least imaginable tha= t=20 > > people would want to set the same dependency trigger for every port the= y=20 > > install, like WITH_ARTS (although it's just as well imaginable that the= y only=20 > > want it for one or two ports in particular, which we traditionally only= =20 > > support very badly and ought to fix), but it's hardly imaginable that a= nybody=20 > > would want every port they install to be built with debug symbols. >=20 > I must note that f.e. global WITH_X11 at least makes some sense, if you= =20 > have X11 (with exception that you still need to run some console variants= =20 > say, remotely, so some way to turn it off per port must exists), but I=20 > can't say even that about global WITH_DEBUG, it is totally useless. I totally agree with that; it's just that having 127 _unobviously_ named DEBUG knobs is also totally useless. E.g., for audio/arts, do I need to set 'WITH_KDE_DEBUG=3Dyes' to get debugging symbols? I don't know and I can't quickly look it up. Michael's proposal for 'WITH__DEBUG' is ultimately the way to go. --Stijn --=20 An Orb is for life, not just for Christmas. --aZoGpuMECXJckB41 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDd1ejY3r/tLQmfWcRAs7MAJ9/Aj9HX3A8hk8TPE9coxN70z+t6QCeKcAd VcrAJ2r8hXgKBws5KdflGck= =0BmP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --aZoGpuMECXJckB41--