From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 27 21:47:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 028DB16A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 21:47:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-in-04.arcor-online.net (mail-in-04.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9874443D1F for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 21:47:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: from lofi.dyndns.org (dsl-213-023-193-017.arcor-ip.net [213.23.193.17]) by mail-in-04.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 539C2104E81; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 23:47:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from kiste.my.domain (lofi@kiste.my.domain [192.168.8.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by lofi.dyndns.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j3RLliw2075651 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 27 Apr 2005 23:47:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) From: Michael Nottebrock To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 23:47:39 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <57436.216.177.243.42.1114582155.localmail@webmail.dnswatch.com> <426FE1EA.7020900@kutulu.org> <20050427212637.GL98718@over-yonder.net> In-Reply-To: <20050427212637.GL98718@over-yonder.net> X-Face: =Ym$`&q\+S2X$4`X%x%6"L4>Y,$]<":'L%c9"#7#`2tb&E&wsN31on!N\)3BD[g<=?utf-8?q?=2EjnfV=5B=0A=093=23?=>XchLK,o;>bD>c:]^;:>0>vyZ.X[,63GW`&M>}nYnr]-Fp``,[[@lJ!QL|sfW!s)=?utf-8?q?A2!*=0A=09vNkB/=7CL-?=>&QdSbQg X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new cc: "Matthew D. Fuller" Subject: Re: boot banner project X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 21:47:50 -0000 --nextPart2578463.9CGsA4t2qK Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday, 27. April 2005 23:26, Matthew D. Fuller wrote: > On Wed, Apr 27, 2005 at 03:03:06PM -0400 I heard the voice of > > Mike Edenfield, and lo! it spake thus: > > One possible alternative to an all-out graphics display would be a > > 'prettified' text console. I'm thinking of what Gentoo and older RedHat > > systems did (haven't used RH in years, dunno if this still applies) > > where about 80% of the system log messages are hidden behind a simple > > task list: > > > > Mounting File Systems ... [ok] > > Starting xl0 ... [ok] > > This is something I've always found somewhat ironic, actually. I'm > not really sure overall whether I like it or not, but it IS very > structured and consistent. Yes, it consistently hides (or worse, discards) useful information - be it= =20 status messages, errors or otherwise. Most distros don't bother about the=20 possible return codes of each service in detail either, so every condition= =20 that could occur is reduced to [ok] or [failed]. Even the NT eventlog isn't= =20 that dumb. =2D-=20 ,_, | Michael Nottebrock | lofi@freebsd.org (/^ ^\) | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve | http://www.freebsd.org \u/ | K Desktop Environment on FreeBSD | http://freebsd.kde.org --nextPart2578463.9CGsA4t2qK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCcAh/Xhc68WspdLARAuExAJ4mh0xF/Y9pwXEkfEkdxqcymMrslgCeLtE+ AHeiPLK49UJDoNRsoLrJq1I= =cobL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2578463.9CGsA4t2qK--