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Date:      Thu, 23 Jan 2020 17:29:48 -0800
From:      Gleb Smirnoff <glebius@freebsd.org>
To:        Ryan Stone <rysto32@gmail.com>
Cc:        src-committers <src-committers@freebsd.org>, svn-src-all <svn-src-all@freebsd.org>, svn-src-head <svn-src-head@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r357051 - head/sys/dev/bge
Message-ID:  <20200124012948.GJ1268@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <CAFMmRNwhcV-%2BSsq_a1RZJYXC8wvnUDLDxdFeHD7PgL5wuierkg@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 08:17:46PM -0500, Ryan Stone wrote:
R> On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 6:05 PM Gleb Smirnoff <glebius@freebsd.org> wrote:
R> >
R> > On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 02:17:33PM -0500, Ryan Stone wrote:
R> > R> What is a driver's responsibility now for entering/leaving the net epoch now?
R> >
R> > For drivers that are 'special', entering the net epoch is necessary. Special
R> > usually means running if_input outside network interrupt context.
R> >
R> > However, there is plan to generalize entering/exiting epoch for taskqueues
R> > and callouts.
R> 
R> Why on earth is it done that way rather than putting the network epoch
R> enter/exit in ether_input?  I'm with Ian; this sounds like a huge
R> layering violation.

Another thing I should have mentioned. Doing this at interrupt level
makes much easier to maintain alternative network stacks, for example
TOE - which now has tons of hacks. Same stands for netgraph. If you
hook ng_ether on, than ether_input is skipped and packet goes to
netgraph, then it can be injected back into network stack from a
different type of node.

-- 
Gleb Smirnoff



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