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Date:      Mon, 23 Sep 1996 10:18:41 +0000 (GMT)
From:      Gabor Zahemszky <zgabor@CoDe.hu>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Cc:        tony@rtd.com
Subject:   Re: ksh [was: Re: Shells shells shells?]
Message-ID:  <199609231018.KAA01709@CoDe.CoDe.hu>
In-Reply-To: <199609210542.WAA00588@zebedee.local> from "Tony Jones" at Sep 20, 96 10:42:12 pm

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> 
> 
> > > The one disadvantage is size:
> <snip>
> > > 335872  20480   7236    363588  58c44   /usr/local/bin/bash
> 
> [John added]
> > both bash and ksh.  There is a real ksh available for free from
> > Lucent (the old Bell-labs/hardware part of AT&T), that was specifically
> > compiled for BSDI, but works on 2.1.5 and 2.2-current.  I think
> > that ksh is a bit smaller than bash also.  Both shells are
> > good (IMO.)
> 
> That would be ksh93, which _was_ available from www.att.com as part of the 
> reuse package (along with nmake, vmalloc etc) [the distribution was associated
> with a book, but I forget who the publisher was]
> 
> Is it now on a Lucent page ? Post split, Korn works for AT&T Labs Research, 
> not Bell-Labs (Lucent). I couldn't find any reference to reuse or ksh on 
> either the main/research AT&T servers, or on the lucent/bell-labs servers.

The correct URL is (from an email of David Korn):
http://www.research.att.com:80/orgs/ssr/book/reuse

And if you can find a Linux a.out version somewhere, you can use it with
linuxemu on 2.1.0R, too.  (I have an old one, and use it sometimes.)

> Anyway the version I have (downloaded ~ Aug 95) is larger than even bash.
> 
> $ size /usr/local/bin/ksh
> text    data    bss     dec     hex
> 409600  16384   8724    434708  6a214

And what about pdksh (it's a very good ksh88 replacement, with some advanced
features - eg. a rebindable keymap; with some features from ksh93)?  It's on
packages (or: ftp.cs.mun.ca/pub/pdksh, the last version is 5.2.8), the size:
$ size /usr/local/bin/pdksh
text    data    bss     dec     hex
159744  4096    7488    171328  29d40
(well, this is the size of this last version compiled from sources, not the
version found in the CD)

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	Gabor Zahemszky <zgabor@CoDe.hu>

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