From owner-freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Wed Dec 20 18:31:48 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FC14E9B6D8 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 18:31:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pete@nomadlogic.org) Received: from vps-mail.nomadlogic.org (mail.nomadlogic.org [IPv6:2607:f2f8:a098::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 89ED17B047 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 18:31:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pete@nomadlogic.org) Received: from [192.168.1.187] (cpe-75-82-192-14.socal.res.rr.com [75.82.192.14]) by vps-mail.nomadlogic.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 86029c48 TLS version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 10:31:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Vote: making wayland=on default (also posted to ports@) To: Johannes Lundberg , freebsd-x11@freebsd.org References: From: Pete Wright Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 10:31:44 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 18:31:48 -0000 On 12/20/2017 03:55, Johannes Lundberg wrote: > Hi > > I want to suggest that we enable wayland by default. In current state > having some parts of wayland in ports is basically useless the > end-users themselves re-build gtk30 and mesa-libs with wayland > enabled. > > libwayland-egl.so from mesa-libs and the extra libraries and headers > from gtk30 adds like a few KB, a drop in the ocean compared to xorg > packages. (might be something more that I missed) > > Personally I see no reason not to make it default on, even with > flavors coming up. For any Desktop user (as well as embedded devices > like IVI-systems and whatnot), Wayland is the future. There's no > escaping that. > > Wayland has been quite usable on FreeBSD for over a year now but > access to it is limited due to the extra efforts required to use it. > > If we are to compare with the other guys, several Linux distros are > already switching to wayland-based compositors as default window > server. > > What do you think? > +1 Not having to track local diffs to enable wayland in gtk30 and friends would be really helpful for me to test/dog food things. -pete -- Pete Wright pete@nomadlogic.org @nomadlogicLA