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Date:      Tue, 12 Jun 2012 15:52:06 -0700 (PDT)
From:      John Kozubik <john@kozubik.com>
To:        Matt Olander <matt@ixsystems.com>
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com>
Subject:   Re: Upcoming release schedule - 8.4 ?
Message-ID:  <alpine.BSF.2.00.1206121545560.19012@kozubik.com>
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Hi Matt,

On Tue, 12 Jun 2012, Matt Olander wrote:

> So, we've (iXsystems, PC-BSD) been kicking around the idea of a Long
> Term Supported version of "PC-BSD Server", which is really FreeBSD
> with some PC-BSD cli tools and perhaps maintaining our own binary
> update server. While we were thinking of doing this with 9.1, we can
> consider 8.x. I'll speak with Kris Moore and the rest of the team and
> find out what it will take.
>
> We've hired a contract release engineer with this task in mind but
> you're right, most of the work will be in backporting. I like the idea
> of coming up with a number it would take and a plan to do it. We're
> not the only people with the problem, obviously.


As a last resort, I would be interested in this, but I'm more interested 
in changing the culture of FreeBSD releases and long-term support in 
general.

I think that:

a) there are a lot more people out there, that we never hear from, that 
have these same problems, and another "4.x style" release would really 
help them.

b) there are a lot of people out there that could be drawn into the 
FreeBSD ecosystem if another "4.x style" release existed.

I would much rather donate $10k to a $100k kickstarter and have this be 
"official" than set aside $10k privately for unofficial maintenance, or a 
"fork".



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