From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sat Nov 5 13:22:58 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C00A5C30E24 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2016 13:22:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ronald-lists@klop.ws) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9DF892E for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2016 13:22:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ronald-lists@klop.ws) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id A6564C30E1D; Sat, 5 Nov 2016 13:22:58 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5FDFC30E1B for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2016 13:22:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ronald-lists@klop.ws) Received: from smarthost1.greenhost.nl (smarthost1.greenhost.nl [195.190.28.81]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B04DA92D; Sat, 5 Nov 2016 13:22:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ronald-lists@klop.ws) Received: from smtp.greenhost.nl ([213.108.104.138]) by smarthost1.greenhost.nl with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c30gk-0005gY-FE; Sat, 05 Nov 2016 14:07:14 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: "Eivind Nicolay Evensen" , "Baptiste Daroussin" , "Julian Elischer" Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [RFC] remove GNU rcs from FreeBSD 12 References: <20160911133804.a7j7p3x2viqzcpec@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <20161025182730.GA60030@klump.hjerdalen.lokalnett> Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2016 14:07:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Ronald Klop" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/1.0 (Win32) X-Authenticated-As-Hash: bdb49c4ff80bd276e321aade33e76e02752072e2 X-Virus-Scanned: by clamav at smarthost1.samage.net X-Spam-Level: / X-Spam-Score: -0.2 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.4.0 X-Scan-Signature: 488b5a33f748713be529de57fa847022 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2016 13:22:58 -0000 On Thu, 03 Nov 2016 03:17:23 +0100, Julian Elischer wrote: > On 26/10/2016 2:27 AM, Eivind Nicolay Evensen wrote: >> On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 03:38:04PM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: >>> hi, >>> >>> For long we are planning to remove GNU rcs from base, after a failed >>> attempt >>> before FreeBSD 10.0. Let see where we are to be able to remove it from >>> FreeBSD >>> 12. > > why should we remove it? > What will replace it? it's an integral part of many people's systems. Firefox/perl/java is also an integral part of many people's system. But it is not in base. > Is there a non gnu RCS with the same features? There is the exact same version in pkg/ports. Ronald. > >> Whatever the outcome may be and for whatever my opinion is worth, I hope >> rcs will stay in base. I don't care about the licensing. I don't >> care if a switch to openrcs happens either, as long as it works. >> >> For years, one has been able to rely upon this operating system having >> certain pieces of software available. Losing that makes it a worse >> choice >> than before. >> >> I've already had to readd cvs to my freebsd tree since that was removed, >> but if it keeps getting worse and worse and there's soon a >> freebsd kernel and some random bits of freebsd userland available >> through ports, there's not much reason to keep using it as an operating >> system, because then it is not an operating system anymore, rather an >> emulation of another "system" built around that concept. >> >> >> >> Eivind N. E. >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"