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Date:      Fri, 6 Jun 1997 20:45:07 +0000 (GMT)
From:      Adam David <adam@veda.is>
To:        msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith)
Cc:        dg@root.com, jkh@time.cdrom.com, ache@nagual.pp.ru, asami@cs.berkeley.edu, bde@zeta.org.au, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-etc@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/etc/mtree BSD.include.dist
Message-ID:  <199706062045.UAA00265@veda.is>
In-Reply-To: <199706060230.MAA29428@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> from Michael Smith at "Jun 6, 97 12:00:56 pm"

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> Adam David stands accused of saying:
> > >    Well, I disagree with you, Jordan. I think we should make the kernel
> > > sources a mandatory part of the system and /usr/include/sys should be a
> > > symlink.

Please check your attribution better, it belongs further down.
I guess you can blame blind/dumb software.

> Count this as a resounding NO vote to the above.
> 
> > > David Greenman
> > 
> > Let me second this, and add the rationale that most people don't want to
> > be running a kernel.GENERIC bloated with all kinds of drivers for devices
> > they probably don't have (and not all drivers that they do need).
> 
> This is contradicted by my experience and that of numerous other
> posters over the years.  Most users don't give a damn whether there
> are extra drivers in their kernel; OTOH they generally get pretty pissed
> if a driver they need _isn't_.

According to this, most users are wasting precious memory.

> > However, building a custom kernel will likely always be a typical operation
> > during post-installation machine configuration.
> 
> Don't make me laugh.  It _might_ be, if the user/admin is particularly
> paranoid, but believe me when I say that GENERIC is a lot more popular
> than you seem to think.

It is not a contest, and I think most would agree that both camps are
significant.

--
Adam David <adam@veda.is>



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